CoolWaters

This bears repeating!

No punchline. Simple question. Should be a simple answer.

OM, do you claim to follow the bible as truth?

Ummmmmmmm...OM...you're so lost and confused that you've forgotten that this is an EX twi message board with the purpose of exposing such things. Duh.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're not supposed to tell everybody!

No sir. Not at all. The bible is pretty clear about this subject.

Repeating here what I said to you on another thread... Coming from someone (you, OM) who defends pedophiles, rapists, wife beaters, idolators, murderers, etc... Well, it really doesn't matter what you think about the bible at all... Because according to the bible itself, you cannot know the things of the spirit.

Coming from someone (you, OM) who defends pedophiles, rapists, wife beaters, idolators, murderers, etc... Well, it really doesn't matter what you think about the bible at all... Because according to the bible itself, you cannot know the things of the spirit.

For those who were victims of vpw, that's the only decent response according to the bible.

Sigh. Now my life is complete. TYVM! (Doesn't that look just like Bobby G spanking Bobby B? Or is that just my fantasy? Tee hee.)

Hey White Dove... Since I was a good girl and didn't tell the answer, will you go get that spanking image you posted in "About The Way" and bring it over here for me? I mean, it brings back so many good memories between us who were of the Topeka Branch... Tee hee. ;)-->

For the record... I admitted to doing armchair lawyering when it was pointed out to me...

Since we are talking about the bible, I think it right to let the bible do the defining. If one does a search of the bible for the word "worship", one will find it used 198 times in 188 verses...according to my search results from bibleontheweb.com (this includes results for "worshipped", "worshippers", "worshipping", and "worshippeth"...and I'm not going to take the time to separate it all). For the most part, when the bible talks of worshipping anything there are two associated acts: bowing down and sacrificing. The lyrics of twi's "God-breathed Word" are absolutely about bowing down. As for sacrificing, twi has sacrificed many, many humans to their idol. Beginning with little children all the way to the aged. TWI has always bragged that they have no friends when it comes to 'the word'...even to the point of rejecting the true friend of Jesus. John R is right when he points out that twi has always rejected the very idea of Jesus...that twi has gone as far as saying that there is a 'devil spirit' named Jesus. TWI has to admit to the resurrection of Jesus so that they can get in on that grace and have a season of the flesh... But twi will damn anybody to hell for even mentioning the cross...so much is twi against the cross that twi bragged to all the world that when twi bought churches from other denominations, the first thing twi did was remove the cross from atop the steeples... And I know how proud twi was of doing so...I was there for the desecration of the chapel on the Emporia campus. This would not be any big deal to me normally... People can believe what they want to believe... But twi is deceitful and is using a form of godliness for their own pleasures. TWI is also this aptly described in the bible: And here: And here: And on and on throughout the rest of II Peter and on into Jude where twi is summed up quite nicely. The power of God is in the work of Jesus...in his miracles while he walked in the flesh, in his crucifixion, in his ascension and in his outpouring. Rejecting any part of Jesus' work is rejecting the power of God. TWI rejects the outpouring first and foremost. By teaching that Jesus is absent, twi is rejecting the outpouring. The bible is very clear that Jesus sent the Comforter. TWI rejects the trinity, therefore rejecting what even Jesus said about himself. As OM pointed out so well, twi muddies the waters of truth to fit their need to be idolatrous. TWI rejects the cross. TWI needs to be their own saviors. Again, none of this would be so bothersome if TWI was being honest about these things. But, as can be seen here, twi touts the bible, and, later on that same page, twi states, "The Way is a fellowship of the followers of the Lord Jesus Christ for the manifestation of the more abundant life." Double-minded, lying, idolatrous... Even unto suing other churches and other peoples who follow Jesus, the only True Way, twi rejects Jesus.

Yeah! What rascal said!

Abigail, Thank you for your input! It helps make things easy to understand! :)--> *************** I'm Proud of Pat!

Let's see...doesn't the bible itself say something about graven images...? Oh yeah... I forgotted... The Old Testament doesn't really meaning anything... It's just there for our learning... The Epistles, however, say that an idol is nothing...and we can partake of anything...that all things are lawful... Which is exactly what twi has been trying to get people to learn all of these years... People are FREE! Free to do any dam thing they want to do... So long as it does not bother one's conscience... Doesn't anybody actually read the bible anymore?

OK, this is a spin-off of the 62nd Anniversary thread. I think it's very important for people to know that twi is not about Jesus. And what better opportunity to let people know this than by using the very examples twi so proudly uses on its own website? On this page of twi's website is a list of 4 songs that were presented at twi's 62nd anniversary activities. The first song, Lift Up Your Eyes, is pretty generic. It could conceivably be sung in any Sunday service in any church. Then comes the song Valiant for the Truth. It's an "us v them" song..."us" being right, "them" being wrong. There is no lyric in this song that gives glory to God or to Jesus. This song is all about how much better these people are than anybody else. Next follows, How Many Do You Know? It's about there being over 900 promises in "God's word"...and how many do you know? It's a challenge to search "the word" for all of the promises so that one can walk "worthy of the lord". Hmmmm. Not one lyric in the whole song to indicate who/what lord... But that's resolved with the next song, The God-Breathed Word. Here are the lyrics I can make out from listening to the link twi posted on their site for anyone's listening and viewing pleasure: Verse 1: "Ever since the dawn of Man, God reached out his hand To make his heart known So his men wouldn't walk alone. He (unintelligible to me) them with spirit, Revealed his plan in the stars. They proclaimed his word To those near and far. Then holy men of God spoke, God uttered what they wrote, He worked in them to reveal his truth (unintelligible to me). Chorus: The god-breathed word, Lives and abides forever, The god-breathed word, We keep it like a treasure. A word that has integrity, We search the truth so we can see The father's will, The god-breathed word. Verse 2: Like a ship that's set to sail, We're equipped to prevail. With god's word in mind, The stability of our times. It's grateful and true, Our steps can be sure, Walking in light With god's power and might. Let the prophets all know, We rejoice at the word (Unintelligible to me) it's silver and gold. His promises are ours to claim He magnified his word Above his name. (Repeat Chorus twice.)" The backdrop on stage is a spotlighted graphic of an open bible with words that appear to say, "THE PREVAILING WORD". Now on this page of twi's website is an actual picture of their idol. It is a golden bible atop cisterns that do not hold water, but let water spill over into a pool in which there are 5 fountains. I've heard tell that at one point in time...heck, maybe even now...there were people buried around the idol... Not a mention of Jesus in any of the songs... Not a mention of the work of the cross that Jesus did... In fact, in the song "God-breathed Word", the bible is spoken of in the manner in which Jesus speaks of himself... To twi, the bible never changes. To twi, the bible lives and abides forever. To twi, the bible is how God reached out to Mankind. To twi, the bible is how God made himself known to man. Yet even their beloved bible pronounces twi as idolaters.

Awwwww Raf! Dagnabbit! Well...what do ya do now?

The reason it makes me happy (and I can only speak for myself) is that it's just another pock mark on how twi spends abs. Also, the very idea that twi is acting like a certain mega corporation (that I don't dare name because they might want to sue me for something stupid like using a word like golden or a word like arches) instead of a church is very interesting indeed...

Wasn't me... I said you were going bald... Tee hee! ;)-->

Yeah... But this is bugging the heck out of me!!! LOL Now if twi had actually dropped the case (they brought it, they could have dropped it), all of this reasoning would make sense... But they went all the way to settlement... There's something there that I just can't put my finger on...

OK...we've got to quit adding to our posts after they've been posted! LOL!

Yet this could have been the case of cases for twi...setting precedent and everything...so that all twi would need to do in the future would be to have one attorney send out a form letter to any possible violators...citing this case as won...not as settled...which only means compromises were made and agreements were reached... I don't get it. If all twi wanted was the domain name, why the expense of Federal Court? Why not just that domain thingy Pat's talking about that handles these things?

So twi was just being nice to Pat? I mean, if the court were to order Pat to pay twi's legal fees, then twi could collect from now to eternity until the debt is paid. All it takes is a demand for the money every so often to keep the order alive into perpetuity. Of course, Pat would have had certain options open to him if he needed them... But twi settling because Pat couldn't afford their attorneys is flimsy, imo...because getting it that far into court...all the way to jury trial...and then winning (which is the assumption when putting forth that Pat wouldn't be able to pay the attorney fees)...well sheesh! Sounds like a total victory for twi. Imagine the spin twi could put on "we were forced by Mr R to go all the way to jury trial and the jury found in our favor"! It's not in twi's nature to stop just short of the jugular...or maybe it is...maybe you all know something about twi I don't... If twi's attorneys were so sure they'd get what they wanted, why even take it to Federal Court at all? I just don't understand this reasoning at all.

I have a question... Why did twi settle? I'm getting the idea that twi settled out of the goodness of its cold heart. ******************* Below added after posting above... ******************* Taken from here: