CoolWaters

Hammer man....too kewl! LMAO!

Hooray!!!! Hooray!!!! Hooray!!! :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D-->

He's definitely a con artist...I don't know his con...but I think he's a charmer...and I can't explain that...also, now that I'm over 45, I find Mick Jagger hot...yes...I'm insane...

It was the first time I had ever been exposed to a group of just plain folks who didn't appear to be trying to one-up each other. At first, I didn't hear any hate messages, either. Also, it was so very cool that I could do sex and drugs and rock-n-roll and still be on the good side of God. I had never been introduced to a god like that before! Then it became a survival thing...way folks were the only folks who would take me as troubled teen who refused to go home. After that, it was the only social group I had developed, so it was the only place where I had friends. Then I took piffle. It made me feel one with god and at least as knowledgeable of the universe as any 2-bit preacher...and often I felt even more knowledgeable...which was the head trip I was most susceptible to after being raised in a violent, judgemental, condemning home. My folks always told me I'd never amount to anything and that I was going to go to hell. Well...along came twi with piffle and, voila!, I wan't only going to avoid hell, but I was in an elite group of christians with a special responsibility to deliver the masses. It had been a lifelong fantasy of mine to save the world. TWI offered not only the means to do such a thing, but the head trip that would make someone believe they could such a thing. Once I began to see the horrible error in the majority of twi doctrines, that 'save the world' fantasy became a fantasy to 'save my brothers and sisters in twi'. It was this last fantasy that kept me around twi for 10 years after I knew it was a bunch of hogwash. It was also that fantasy that led me to seek out offshoots...and kept me in the cult mindset for another 12 years.

You go girl! And all you students out there...yipee!!!!

Too kewl! I will certainly tune in!

Unless I'm sick, I mostly nap instead of sleeping a full night through. We get up between 3:30am and 4:30am. About 8am I nap for a couple of hours. Then I nap for a couple of more hours in the late afternoon. Anywhere from midnight to 2am I go to bed. Wherever we go in the car, I sleep while riding...even if it's just 15 mins or so. I also sleep through boring TV shows...not more than an hour. This schedule changes daily. :D--> But it's pretty reflective of my sleep patterns.

I love it that ol' vic is the ghost craiggers is so terrified over!!!!!!!! Tee hee!

Tis so sweet to have such fun! :D-->

So THAT'S why I'm getting all these heavy breathing phone calls... Ooops! ;)-->

ROTFLMAOPIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!! My daughter used to do this! OMG!!!!! LMAO!!!!

There was this branch leader in Anchorage who always put up a Christmas tree...with no skirt and no presents under it. My husband once asked him, "What's this for? Slaying babies?" Little did we know at the time that that was closer to the truth than we could have imagined... So I just say, "Happy Holidays!"

Wisdom teeth are no fun...but it's the afterwards that is the worst...what happens at the dentist is a cakewalk. I'm so glad you've got Steve! around to help you! Steve!, I know you'll be feeling so bad for Cindy! that you'll gladly wait on her hand and foot. :D--> My good energies going out for you today and in the coming recovery days, Cindy! :)-->

It's great that we here at the Cafe can accept one another and move beyond our differences! Galen, thanks! ExC, thanks! STL...too kewl! GStG... :D--> ROR...you make me blush! :)--> Hills...God gave you a big ol' @h*t stirrer and far be it for you to ignore God's gifts...right? ;)--> johniam...thanks! dmiller...you are so great! :)--> Everybody...this thread has stirred up a truly great conversation between my hubs and I...and we talked for 4 hours last night. You all probably wouldn't believe just how much you've helped us! Thank you {{{{{Everybody}}}}}!

Nicely done, skyrider!

It was not my feeling that anybody had been insulting or in any way 'wrong'. I had an emotional reaction to some things that were said...and I posted from that reaction. I am sorry that I did that, but the post is out there and I can't take it back and redo it now. Also, I wasn't terribly clear in my initial post. I wasn't sure what I was trying to say then...and going through the responses has helped me to get closer to what I mean and feel. All the responses here are truly valued (except for the crack remark) and helpful with figuring out this stuff. There's no need for anybody to shut up at all. The discussion tripped some stuff in me and I reacted. That happens in life. Life goes on. Please don't anybody enforce a gag on themselves because I got emotional. It just ain't right, Mable!

Also, if my husband were to ever refer to me as his "spousal unit", he wouldn't dare ask, either...because he'd get handed a "unit" and told to enjoy.

See, it's statements like this that get me so emotional. I don't want to forget about sex. I doubt that many women want to forget about sex. I do, however, want sex to be a natural extension of the love shared in day-to-day life...not the end to which every means lead. Sex just for sex's sake is not enjoyable to me very often anymore. When it is enjoyable is when we haven't had much personal time for quite awhile and we need to just get down for getting down's sake. Ya know? Beyond that, however, it is more enjoyable for me for the sex act to be a natural extension of the closeness every day...sort of the exclamation point at the end of the sentence...not always the subject of the sentence.

reikilady, I'm sorry that my post was so generalized as to include you and others who understood what I was asking. I just got so emotional over the other responses that I posted in reaction instead of thinking things through completely. Again, I'm sawry.

George, Thank you! I was beginning to feel like the whole point of marriage was sex. Abigail, Thank you, too! You got me summed up better than I got me summed up! :)-->

What great responses here! I've got goosebumps! Yes, Belle, the old you died. Well, actually, it was slaughtered the moment you began questioning...and now that you're in a place to wonder about why it was slaughtered so coldly, you're also in a place to recognize that, as has already been said, it was the unhealthy version of you. We left in 1990...but I wasn't out of the mindset until 2002...because I hadn't dealt with they why's and wherefore's of my attraction to twi in the first place. And that has already been said, too. There's also a death of all the time spent doing the twi thing and living up to twi expectations. For me, that is time I cannot recoup. Something I discovered in therapy was that I was holding onto the notion that there were just a few things wrong in twi that, if given the opportunity, I could convince people that I'm not such a reject and that I make a whole lot of sense. That is wishful thinking. TWI allows nobody to think for themselves...and allows nobody to associate with those who do think for themselves. If the brainwashing has taken hold, people who are still in twi voluntarily reject friends and loved ones who are no longer in. Basically, holding on to the hope that friends and loved ones can be talked sense to is hopeless...and causes more pain than recovery. And even if you just want to interact on a mature, amicable level if you're at the grocery store and happen to run into folks still in twi, that is still not allowed by twi mentality. Those still in twi will see such interactions as being friendly to devil spirits they might "catch". It's harsh. But that's the reality. It takes a long time to grasp that reality once you're out...because, now that you're thinking more clearly, you just don't think like that anymore...and neither does most of the rest of the world...so it's hard to understand. Also, if somebody in actually acts friendly towards you, you know that it's not for you, but for the possibility that they may win you back. TWI is a cult. This is the way it is with cults. Yes, Belle, someone died. Something died. Grieve.

I started this thread hoping to get an understanding of the 50 something male psyche. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that 50 something males are no different from 20 something males...except it just takes a little longer. It seems that 50 something men think about, want, try to get and complain when they don't get sex just as much as a 20 something male. Also, it seems that if a woman 40-50 something wants more out of life than sex, she's got some sort of problem. Is this the message you all wanted me to get? Am I understanding these posts correctly? There was one exception...and that was Oen...and he was told to get off the crack. Yikes! Straighten me out if I'm misunderstanding here.

I kinda figured. Well, he'll just have to hear about it and be jealous, then. Tee hee. ;)-->

Oen, it's OK...I'm enjoying your nudity. ;)-->

But he wants me to enjoy it, too. He's not happy with me writing my shopping list while he's doing what he wants to do...ya know? Go figure.