Cynic

George, I don’t know what to say, except I’m very sorry. I like you, and have enjoyed your clear-headed posts.

What a soap opera! (Duplicate post to replace one that disappeared)

Linda, I think it's actually one of my posts that now makes no sense. The mods around here can be a squirrelly bunch. Let's forget about it, though, and continue on with the topic at hand: I think it was Colonel Mustard in a Plymouth Road Runner, somewhere around Pittsburgh. I don't remember the year.

Motherof2, What is your denominational affiliation?

Motherof2, There seem to be very few ex-Wayfers who have forsaken the errant Christological doctrines taught in TWI, and embraced the eternal existence/deity of Christ and a Trinitarian view of God. There are a number of ex-TWI folks around here who sit on Sunday mornings in traditional churches, but I suspect they are largely still Wierwille-esque in their Christological and theological views. Two somewhat loudmouthed exceptions (there are/have been some others) are Mark O’Malley and I. O’Malley is a Roman Catholic. I am Calvinistic and a member of an OPC (Orthodox Presbyterian Church) church. A soundly Trinitarian, though not-often-posting member of this forum is D. A. Reed (never involved with TWI), who is a Christian academic with a pastoral (Wesleyan, I think) background. Welcome, and beware.

Bingo! The methodology by which evolutionists come by their claims is not philosophically (or theologically) neutral.

Well, bully for you, likeaneagle. I went, I saw, I bought nothing -- though I was out before 5:30 AM. There were more than 50 people in line outside Staples; seas of automobiles near Wal-Mart, Circuit City, and Dick’s Sporting Goods; a line (maybe lines) outside Radio Shack and/or the adjacent Office Max; a store full of briskly moving women (except for the dozen or so waiting at each register) at Goody’s; a line at Kohl’s that stretched from the front registers to the last side aisle, then westward nearly to the end of the store. Phooey!

I do most of my Christmas shopping over the internet. It’s easier, quicker and a lot less nerve-wracking than my former practice of doing most of it two days before Christmas. I don’t like even driving near the local mass of shopping centers on Black Friday. After checking out www.blackfridayads.com and getting an e-mail flyer from Staples’, however, I’m considering a possible run at it, though I want nothing to do with the crush at and around Wal-Mart.

Linda Z., What was your infraction?

Never heard of him. Was Jeffy Poo some big weenie TWI leader accustomed to doing confrontations?

I spend incomparably more time thinking about things Trinitarian and Calvinistic than I do about TWI, but have occasionally wondered if LCM, on the way down and out from his position as TWI's autocrat, orchestrated a succeeding power structure in which TWI would have no single dominant male MOG figure.

LG, Allen W. certainly seems somewhat short on decorum. On what basis, however, do you accuse him of cowardice?

"I became self-aware; I am alive."

Romantic restlessness and wanderlust I understand, but living in a tiny compartment and getting to know the bacteria of various public showers doesn't have any appeal for me. Linda, A belated Happy Birthday, by the way.

[snide remard about "pair juice" deleted by Cynic, after realizing Raf was partly quoting What The Hey.]

A bit on a few Bible versions The New American Standard Bible (NASB) is regarded as a ~very~ accurate Bible version, and is based on a word-for-word method of rendering an English version of ancient language texts. One complaint about the NASB is that its renderings are so word-for-word that its English is at times stylistically stiff. The New International Version (NIV), on the other hand, was based on a methodology of trying to produce a “dynamic equivalent” in English of the phrases of biblical texts. I have read a number of books of the Bible in the Revised Version (RV), the American Standard Version (ASV) and the NASB, and am presently doing Bible reading in the English Standard Version (ESV). According to its publisher, the ESV uses a word-for-word translational approach, but breaks from that approach at times to increase readability. http://www.esv.org/translation/philosophy http://www.esv.org/translation/compare.verses http://www.esv.org/about/other.translations

IMO, the moderators need to limit the number of threads some posters can start.

IMO, the moderators need to limit the number of threads some posters can start.

Okay, I tried dipping a couple Long John Silver's fries in malt vinegar. Yuck.

Good one! What was it Wierwille said man’s greatest spiritual problem was? I don’t remember.

Hal, Jesco is a tragic figure. As you indicated, his story is one involving the ravages of sin and what probably were overblown hopes. He now is apparently so destitute that folks put on a benefit concert for him in Hinton a few weeks ago. http://www.jescofest.com IMO, one place on Earth a guy like that might be able to make it -- at least on a steady paycheck level -- is Las Vegas. For all I know, though, he might have already tried that.

Hal and Rob, If you guys ever experience homesickness for the hills, watching this internationally somewhat famous video about one of our state’s homegrown celebrities ought to pretty well cure it: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=41...utlaw&hl=en

Metaphorically kicking myself for having been such a religious ignoramus and worthless heretic that I got John Hill involved with TWI.

Tonto, I remember Krintz. IMO, she was one of the few Wayfers who were likable.

Hal, I figure you know this, but I didn’t know it until I asked a couple ex-Wayfers from the early-70s era if they knew what Franklin Hartwell was up to. Frank passed away several years ago.