So If one is born Again at the onset of Ro:10,9, then one would think that God set a pattern of Grace so one thru discipline can grow up(so to speak) in the knowledge of the Lord and of the word, so we can Walk in the New Man and being able to produce those things of the Spirit..I tend to get over whelmed at times discerning the 9 manis, are they necessary (according to many classes-TWI) to have to be a more mature one..WHAT ARE THE GREATER WORKS? THAT WE CAN DO? sorry, Im not yelling..just emphasing..JC healed..that's huge!! Are manifestations works of the flesh or Spirit..
Hope Im not derailing..maybe , taking this one step further..
I aggree, that the saved is yesterday, today and forever.