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I have contacted MSNBC and offerred my several decades worth of first hand experience with TWI from a leadership perspective inside this organization. If they so desire to do a documentary expose, they know exactly where to find me.

I'd like to have five minutes to confront VPW again regarding what he did to my sister in South Carolina. The first time I asked him he lied through his teeth and intimidated me. This time, I'd be armed with the truth instead of his carefully constructed facades. I'd also like 5 minutes with LCM, have him look me in the eye, and justify how he spent my abundant sharing while assaulting innocent women.

VP gave such a demonstration to the 6th Corps. Showed how he trained his dog to obey immediately on the first command and said most people's dogs are better trained than their children. Suggested the same principles in raising kids. Tell them once and if they disobey, smack 'em with a wooden spoon. I'll never forget the strange display down in Florida in the home of Bxx and Dxxxxx Mxxxxxxx when their limb secretary's little daughter failed to acknowledge my greeting when I said hello to her. Literally no one was allowed to move until this child said hello to me. I had to stay there and watch while Bxx knelt in front of this kid and smacked her bottom until she finally said hello. We were there at least 45 minutes, no exaggeration. He would tell her to say hello, she would refuse, and he would smack her. Repeated God knows how many times. Tedious. Succeeded in getting the child to say hello, but more importantly, it did NOT change the child's attitude. In raising children, we are after their hearts, not just the outward expressions. Typical for TWI to have it so backward. Treat the kid like a dog, get someone who will bite the hand that feeds it, IMHO.

Methinks LCM doth protest too much...

I would not have killed anyone for TWI, but I had someone in my branch who will if he is only asked. When we were coordinating the Cleveland area we had a veteran in our fellowship who had previously worked for the CIA. He was a trained killer, had done it many times and told me that if LCM asked him to off somebody, he would do it: "without question immediately without blinking an eye without a second thought and without remorse" This man is STILL IN TWI

Indiana: Evansville 1953-1973 1974-1975 Munster 1989-1995 Now in Cleveland since 1995. Hi Chris! Love, Marcia

I don't want any of the "things" TWI accumulated over the years. I want back everything they stole from me: My youth My idealism My strength My health My trust My faith My dignity And oh, yeah. Every red cent they took from me, my sister, and my parents by fraud, coersion, and duress.

Walter Crinnion seems to have done very well for himself since leaving TWI. I have seen him at least twice on The View doing spots on naturopathic meds and such. Hellooo to my Sick Corps buds -=^._.^=-

TWI is always trying to turn their wrongdoing inside out and blame the victim. It has EVER been their modus operandi. At one point, TWI was responsible for and AGREED to pay a hospital bill for an injury that occurred on THEIR property, due to their OWN negligence. B.T. agreed to turn it in to TWI's insurance agency. Funny, but after I left TWI, they STOPPED paying the bill and the hospital eventually turned it over to a collection agency. When I contacted B.T., the person who represented TWI and had agreed to pay the bill, I told him that because they had not paid the hospital bill, it had been referred to collections. After B.T. hemmed and hawed and blew smoke up my skirt and tried to dance around TWI's legal responsibility, he in a very accusatory voice said, "I'd be interested in knowing WHY they turned YOU over to a COLLECTION AGENCY!" The inference was that I was the one who was in default on this bill, and he was calling my stewardship of my finances into question. Then I had to remind him why I had called and that it was HE and TWI who had AGREED to pay the bill and THEY were the ones who weren't paying THEIR bill, NOT ME. I had to threaten them with legal action before they finally paid the bill. And, yes, they PAID the bill IN FULL. But ONLY when backed into a corner.

My rules (for what it's worth): 1. Tell the truth. 2. Tell the truth. 3. Don't say anything here you wouldn't want a. repeated back to you in court by opposing counsel. b. seen on a highway billboard with your name attached to it. 4. Always tell the truth.

Muhammad Ali Barbara Streisand and, oh, yeah, the head of the Ford Modeling Agency, whoever she is. That grad who used to model Guess jeans had an interview with the head of Ford. Afterwards, Craig had her share with TWC what happened at the interview, This chick told TWC that she "confronted" this woman, then who showed her "true colors" as "seed". I wonder if she spit pea soup?

Cats rule. Dogs drool. But then again, so does one of my cats.

The "Way Leadership" that used and abused my family is a loooooooooong line headed up by Victor Paul Wierwille, Loy Craig Martindale, Mxxx Wxxxxxx, Lxxxx Pxxxxxxxx, Jxxx Pxxxxx and many others, NONE of whom have EVER apologized to me or any other member of my family for the damage they have done. Not that I believe they ever will. I'm not holding my breath. However, if I get a personal visit from a few folks, I'd be willing to listen. We'll see if they get past my front door depending on the first things out of their mouths. And no, I don't think you do understand where my frustration comes from. Most of the frustration comes from people who seem to minimize the damage done in favor of what they think they got out of being involved with The Way. However, when you start digging, and I mean REALLY digging the truth, you will see how many lies you have been fed by TWI regarding the truth of God. You're not there yet. You still think the opium you've been fed is candy, and you patronize me. And THAT, dear is what is frustrating. Now I really do have to get back to my equations. Unlike people, numbers are logical. Unlike people, numbers never lie. Therein is truth and peace for me.

Erick, and others who support his drivel.... So what you are saying is, the destruction of the life of my sister is worth what you got out of being involved in TWI? Her life doesn't matter to you. Only what you got out of being involved in what the man who violated her life did for you. I know there are far more than just one or two people who VPW violated and devastated and defamed. I suppose if you look at all the broken lives, marriages, families, and even suicides left in the wake of The Way International, I guess you think it was all worth it because of the piddly little bit you think you got out of it. Too bad Gacy is dead. He probably would have shoveled your driveway. Can't think of a more selfish attitude at the moment than the one you display.

I ditto Sudo. The sticker had a purpose. Not considering the purpose of the sticker and failing to apply it to the bumper caused the problem. It's not an attack of the devil against anyone, in or out. It was a simple lapse in synapse.........that EVERYONE experiences from time to time whether they want to admit it or not. Take responsibility for it, put the sticker on the car, and don't beat yourself up about it. Have a better day tomorrow.

How do I get my blinking kitty to show up?

I too, remember when this document hit the ministry and ripped it apart. I too, lost every last friend I ever had, when I decided to stick around and help rebuild the ministry I felt God had called me to. I also considered those who bailed out during that time "rats", who abandoned Craig at a time I felt he needed our support. Knowing he had NO ONE in the research category, my husband was first at the bat to step in and fill what gaps were left by teaching Greek to The Way Corps. I personally visited Craig in private when he came to Word in Business in Chicago right after Ralph had left. At the time I was not privvy to all the inside information about what had gone wrong. After speaking with him, being assured he was totally repentant of the errors he had made, I was only interested in helping Craig back on to his feet and supporting him in his efforts (which I thought were) to rebuild The Way International. My husband and I began supporting Craig with all the research we could, and fighting for the ministry amongst our people on the field, and with the WC my husband taught. We drew a line in the sand with the people we knew before POP and let them know we were dedicating to rebuilding. During Greek class just prior to the Galatians teaching, my husband drew a line with TWC in support of Martindale. This, when even the in resident WC were divided in their support for him. We cut off all correspondence with lifelong friends and relatives. We built a strong group of believers in NW IN who not only were absolutely wonderful folks, unified in purpose and spirit with each other on the Word, but who were also fiercely loyal to Martindale because WE WERE. But, we began to see things twist and turn around 1993. The God that was being preached became more and more foreign to the one I had originally learned. The research we had sent in was being corrupted. And the things we were currently sending in were not being heard. I challenged the Eve/lesbian baloney that was being tossed around. Found myself on the wrong side of the battle on that one. Not too long after that, research we sent in went unanswered and unused. Soon my husband was told not only was our research no longer wanted, but that we should stop researching altogether. Eventually the entire ministry became so perverse we could not justify our continued involvement. How devastated I was to learn the details of not only what he had done before POP, but what he resumed doing with *gusto* afterward, right under my nose, all the while receiving and utilizing the gifts we offered him in order to help rebuild what we truly believed was a godly ministry. He had to know that had I been aware of what he was doing, that my husband and I would have turned the ministry upside down on him. I see now how he *used* us directly after POP in order to help regain his position of power with TWC and the people on the field. He used our research, and he used our loyalty, and our leadership. And when he was again secure, he no longer *needed* our support. Martindale wanted to go *unchallenged* in what he did with the doctrine. He effectively began eliminating anyone who would question what he was doing, and who could work the languages better than he could. He also had to know I would never buy into his *lifestyle* so we were only allowed so close and that was it. And when he saw I would not buy every party line that came down the pike, he saw that he could no longer trust our leadership. Martindale *betrayed* every single person who stayed with him after POP. We gave him the second chance he so desperately wanted and he blew it badly. And those who so supported him, who were loyal to him, who wanted to help rebuild the ministry, he gutstripped them and left them for dead. Craig, I want you to know.... WE ARE NOT DEAD I also want you to know..... WE WILL NOT GO AWAY And know this....WE REFUSE TO BE SILENCED There are those of us out here, who KNOW YOU, And are committed to TELL ALL THAT WE KNOW.