excathedra

go play with their heads if you have the time actually, i think you should go to new knoxville, ohio, to get a real view just set up an appointment with ms. rivenbark sorry i don't where you live maybe make a phone appointment -- my husband and i were twi leaders when wierwille turned his eye to the motorcoach wall and psycho geer got involved, etc., etc. we attended a "corp meeting" and were told NOT to tell people in our twig/branch what was going on. we said "screw that" people asked us to keep running a fellowship after that but how could we? first, we were so beyond burned -- i was beyond messed up. what were we supposed to teach? vp's books? chris geer's tapes? craig's insanity? please come on john lynn passed through on his positive carpet ride -- made me sick the love / friendship we had with the people we fellowshipped with was real. nothing else was. i'm not saying god wasn't, but where the heck do you go from there? our leader would be the person who told us we couldn't tell them the truth. or it would be psycho craig or chris or lynn hard to explain thanks for letting me ramble

because two old ladies living in ohio with a few followers is quite irrelevant at least kim kardashian's followers get to look at her pretty outfits and nicely applied makeup

hi galen! good to see you the thought of a fellowship makes me feel awful

no don't bother

i do know from him that the usa way corps caused the downfall of the "ministry" -- i hope they haven't done it again

for a little while there after leaving, i kept some sacred books and sylabi (?)lol as time went on, i realized what a brainwashed azz i was i kinda wish i had kept my files instead of leaving them behind in my divorce i had excellent letters from vpig and craig to show you how insane they really were/are oh well damn i'd rather believe in the trinity any day then become spiritually mature in vpig's book the gals, the guys, vpig, etc., told me being spiritually mature was to please the man of god sexually and of course keep it in my locked box ugh

is karma mentioned in the bible?

WHAT a SHOCKER lol thanks penworks :) -- what's this movie about the way?

the green book, brown/orange, blue book, etc., were so disjointed. i think "the magic of thinking big" made more sense as far as coherence even pfal book -- it wasn't like reading a book i actually thought this when i was 19 lol

yes thank you for the vitamin d info

i never thought i would say i want to send him flowers i know i am evil bless me father for i have sinned

says it all for me

thank you all for your advice -- the nutrition aspect has really been a very positive direction best of luck to you onioneater many hugs belle and to all thank you so much it's tough when a doctor gives something that ends up hurting more than helping, you know?

thank you so much

anyone have success or advice for getting free?

never even realized that krysie

my opinion is also very different good lord there are so many poor people -- not in money -- poor in soul -- poor in desparation -- poor in addiction -- poor in loneliness -- each day it just breaks my heart

cults suck anyone who tries to get you to think you need them sucks it's a shame their prey is many times the young

so sorry oldschool -- yeah the spiritually elite barf -- i feel so lucky now that god is real to me and helping me with some horrible crap i'm going through

letters to the editor lol a column something like one that was done by that german buried in the water on wierwille road -- is that where he is? i remember it could be called by the way NOT was it called by the way?

oh fut the shuck up i'm tired

he started out as a nice guy and ended up as psycho power freak i'm not sure what veepig started out as -- i know he ended up with his glass eye turned to the wall or rolling on the floor ms. southern snake well it's just too yucky to discuss

i think veepig thought he himself belonged in the white house

if you do that little * here and there we know who you're talking about please do not say anything about exc*thedr* thank you

it's so hard to think about statistics when you're one of them