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well, next time trip them and then minister to them or say HALT IN THE NAME OF ROSALIE RIVENBARK :) sorry it is kinda sad

i don't think linda z had to pay any price. she was and is a lovely -- you know -- daughter of god -- spiritual person - etc. etc. i often felt like that was why she got healed i hope that makes sense

thank you chock

i would not recommend any church or cult yet who wants to get out? be kind and gentle and logical and pray pray pray if this dear person has a very strong opinion or question on something, i would go to the "top" with it -- it's amazing how you realize they are not who you think they are....

boy that's the truth my dear t

thanks again geish and all and great point opera buff what i saw that day with the little children was something from a horror movie called "don't look now" which i had seen a year or two before. it was a dwarf face but anyway, enough about that i'm not trying to "glorify the devil" -- i personally prefer good spirits and guardian angels :)

is that a verse they use(d) to "mark and avoid" people? excellent verse -- don't remember that one. to me, that is the perfect description of vp wierwille and the hearts of so many lovely people

i appreciate the replies g-gal there were no candles or seances those times when the dark thing scooted around. i remember thinking the second time that God was showing me something because it reminded of the first time. dot matrix and i were sharing a room the first time and franklin smith was awaken by God and came to our room. dot remembers it much better than i do. there was more to it. the second time -- oh it's a long story -- we came home from a bar (not drunk) but this gal was acting very strange and that's when the second one.... as far as the kids, i guess they could have a disorder, but they came so fast to the gate and they looked like something i had once seen in a movie (scary movie) and it's kind of like when you see something but you are seeing it from spiritual eyes.... and then when i left i looked back and they were fresh faces lovely looking kids hope this explain a little java love to talk -- especially about good spirts

my mommy is about to be 80 she wants this song played at her funeral but she damn better live another 20 years

on two different occasions years apart i definitely saw a dark shadow hovering in the corner of the room (it scooted about one of those times) and got horrible vibes and there was strange stuff happening. it would take me a while to explain both times. i may have done here previously, but i will again if need be.... another time when i was selling way books door to door in north carolina, i was walking up a driveway and two little children came running up to the backyard fence that met the driveway and they had horrible terrible troll like old faces, so i didn't knock at the door there are other times very spooky things happened what do you think?

you so funny george s george

good post jim i don't think he had a clue about athletics or military i do remember in residence we had to do some strange crap because of the corps leaders he picked running in place in the cold dark middle of night in the mud leader yelled "hit your backs" i think and one girl started hitting her back, but i think it meant to drop down on your back i'm not sure yet after frikking30plusyears how that helped help people :)

i think the only person i heard got healed directly via vp was linda z some people have said they think wierwille was of the devil's seed. not sure if there is a thread on that

for me, the definition of talent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRZQCdYqNoY

'tis true when someone (leader reverend) would go off screaming like a maniac, we were told it was spiritual anger when someone (leader reverend) would molest you, you were told you had a gift from god to minister to him i will think of many more examples, but i hope this helps along with what geisha and ww and sky tell you i'm just trying to calm down and tell you that i see this in many other places besides the way, but i know we are on this forum to talk about the way it deeply hurts me that people were condemned, exposed, trashed, etc., when they were just human and innocent and had done nothing compared the the bastuds running the joint

bad girl geisha thank you so much (((((bfh))))))for earl a lovely song i've posted before. i don't like him as a person, but i love her, and they are fantastic artists

that thing about the dogs is just so wrong, i need that money, damn it seriously that is so disgusting, and once again, in the name of the lord UGH

thank you all for going easy on me i appreciate it so much some days i zero in on some things and other days, other things i was a having john prine moment, but i do see things from all your points of view, believe it or not :) i know you believe me ps. i find it really annoying when people respond with a youtube song (except for me)

look, i'm not a big bible reader or any such thing but i read judge not and you will not be judged condemn not and you will not be condemned forgive, and you will be forgiven yes you can tell me context and give me a million more verses about sheeps and wolves i simply wanted to tell you how i feel not to mention let him who is without sin cast the first stone -- i don't feel it's my life's purpose to expose the stupid way or the roman catholic church for that matter :) not trying to argue, just trying to - i don't know -- peace that doesn't mean i wouldn't tell my own story

but be careful, my dear friend, that you don't get a hard heart wordwolf, i can't read all those bold paragraphs, but i love you2

thank you so much dabobbada that's the nicest verse. ohman god himself will wipe away my tears and take care of all the horrible pain and sorrow of this sucky life and thank you chockie it means a lot

joe is still in the f u c k i n g way????

thank you for the replies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D97PRG4WAHA&feature=related

there are one-sided views here -- i don't want to name names -- but i will if you are going to torture me life and people's minds and hearts are so intricate i just don't know how to explain it i cannot see using all my post time (it's been so little) just crucifying everyone or every idea, thought, verse, etc., with regard to the way i will elaborate later, but now i have to go think about it there are so many horrible things in life. i can't stand the way, but do i have to dig and find things -- not at all. they are very uppermost in my mind but i have many good things, people, even experiences so have at it thanks love, e a sexually assaulted wayfer mwah

oh damn it -- always trying to follow threads and then losing my train.... johny yam is ok by me -- been here forever like me -- and always respectful as long as i can remember, but i don't have a memory yuk yuk yam :) oh no it's about spiritual anger and pressure. just ask vince finnegan and a few other asseeeholesi do have to agree (i'm sorry) about some of the ham and waysider back and forth when people are really trying to say something. it's about respect but i'm sure i've broken the rule myself