excathedra

may i clarify ? first i know you are a loving person jonny (sorry i called you lingo, i couldn't remember if you had an "h" in your name and i was feeling anally accurate at the moment, and used lingo, but i see how it came across when you called me "thedra." sorry.) i felt bramble's story was just terribly sad, and i was defending her because i didn't think she should be "brushed over" because what she said got to me and i thought needed acknowedgment in a big way. it was so much more than just her house. and i do still feel that way. it annoyed me when you asked her to get back on topic, jonny. like what she said wasn't devastating.... (that's my interpretation, again). i know and still know so many fabulous people who went into the program, but i don't think they are any more wonderful than bramble or act2, but i'm not trying to say act2 said that, and i apologize, because she did not. also, my corps friends do go "deeper" than college friends. we have a bond beyond words, it's called "misery" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha did you think i was going to say commitment or love for god and people. i'm sorry i just couldn't help that one. ;) i work with a gal who has never been in the corps or in the way ministry and i love her like a sister. she heals my soul. i'm just working through this crap like everyone else.

laughing so hard, kung-fu fighting and it's a small world after all you guys are sick ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha it's not not unusual to be loved by anyone it's not unusual to have fun with anyone but when I see you hanging about with anyone it's not unusual to see me cry i wanna' die

ohforgodssake i'm tired of the corps and noncorps thing yeah you told bramble..... bummer, now what about nice corps people you met ? ok i'll be negative you be positive making coin on a house is minimizing things a bit, don't you think ?

pitiful laughing my foolass off

an exorcism might be in order

well lingo i think you disregarded bramble's story with a quick word and then asked her to tell what "corps" she liked. i thought it was a bit shallow i believe it might be your rah rah personality (not meant as an insult at all) but i took it the way bramble did dear (((((((act2))))))), your intentions were really great, but i can't get into this thread for some reason, i'm sorry people are wonderful in their own right as people. i don't see any distinction about the corps training program. the reason i like the corps threads i go on is because i made friends there just like in college

bramble, i can't blame your husband one little bit. your story is really heartwrenching. how dare all the honchos live high on the hog while all the "regular folk" support them. it's just downright criminal. hope there's some kind of big reward for you somewhere along the line

why is that i wonder ? and do you think there's a connection regarding drambuie and embezzling ? ;)

oh man, bramble that sucks. i hope they were just scared and stupid and clueless. i hate to think you weren't important to them. but i do know what you mean and how you could feel that way. playing the way game with more important players like most corps did when push came to shove. i never felt important as way corps. i felt like s hit. and honestly from my heart, my best friends were the people we hung with in twig. but i don't think i ever should have been "corps" i sucked at it as did my husband i was at a special corps meeting wtih limb leader in the POP time and he said we have to shut up and not tell "our people" (what an egotistical term) what's going on for the sake of i forget some such s hit so we (my then husband and i) went back and reported every single solitary word told to us mainly because our friends were so important to us, but selfishly maybe because we were already so burned out and abused at that point because we were not sterling corps, but we definitely didn't buy the thing "protect our people from the truth" s hit i don't know how else to explain it. they were telling us it was "loving" not to tell all the crap does that make sense ? i don't think i'm doing a good job of explaining i'm sorry you were hurt and i'm sorry i was hurt and we are all equal people trying to get along in this stinking life. i'm glad we're out of the way i just read your post more carefully, they were climbing the ladder i'm really sorry i have some friends still who were in the corps and they wish people would realize how much they loved god and people etc. and that's why they went in there. mind you, these people never got to be big leaders and they didn't make the grade for some reason. but they truly sacrificed a lot and wanted to sell their soul for service to god i hope some people see what i mean because if you start to try to explain it yourself, it makes you look like you're trying to be important or special

one of the most loving kind wonderful people, a dear fellow and friend, called me from great britain and told me how geer said he was no longer welcome at the way. he and his wife had marital difficulties and geer called them in for a marriage counseling session. lo and behold, he had a lineup of other clergy there (you need witnesses, you know), to their utter shock and dismay. he questioned them about their sexual relations. he told the wife (also my friend and a very modest shy gal just like her husband) that she should stick her finger up his butt and suck his dick, if she were a good wife. he told him (i think this was in a man-to-man separate counseling session) that he should get a prostitute, lest the ministry be blamed (divorce)..... anyway, this friend of mine was having a nervous breakdown, it seemed apparent to me i called wierwille and told on geer. wierwille's response to me was, "how long do i have to suck your corps asses" but he must have said something to geer because geer called me at home and told me to be very very careful because my friend (the husband) was packing some big ones. i said big what ? he said, you know devil spirits..... ahhhhhhhhhh what a minister, what a shepherd. someday i should tell the story about me on the coach when wierwille finally got me. our dear chris was the driver.

i remember one time i walked past veepee and geer and barbara delivering wierwille's precious little lamb puppies. he cared more about those dogs than people. anyway, barbara did something "wrong" i guess helping in the delivery, and wierwille ripped into her and RAGED and SCREAMED and CURSED and went off like a raving maniac, using words that were even over-the-top for me. it was the most abusive disgusting rant of a lunactic i ever heard, and i've heard the best of them. what did chris do ? not a damn thing. i was so scared i was shaking. i ran away. if i had had any brains, i would have walked up and punched both of them in the face.

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plasma, the only way to see real blood you so funny hillsie

i like that word jackal i was a mindless spineless sheep baahhhh

"you are the scum of the earth." this really hit my funny bone !!!! hey i thought you said i was the salt of the earth no i said you were the scum of the earth

i certainly didn't expect all that crap..... makes me sick thinking about it

answering machine at "headquarters" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that was hilarious you were so smart back then dr. strange to get out (i don't mean you're not smart now :))

got a giant laugh out of that one engine !!!!!!!!! ** what's the best part about dating a homeless woman ? you can drop her off anywhere

man you grieved for a seed boy, i think you're a seed boy g oddamnit

goes to show god must be an "individual" god. how in the hell he led you to the roman catholic church will be something i'll never understand..... in this life i guess he can enlighten me in the hereafter

well there are a lot of nutcases here too ;) ;) ;) ;) but that's life i'm including myself as #1

way too much time on your hands you gotta be kidding me

hey socks thank you for your post. i think if i wanted to be a christian i would move to the west coast but you don't even run a fellowship ok so i'll just move nextdoor ha ha ha ha ha ha "Plus he made the Pillsbury Dough Boy look lean and tanned" that blessed me very much. this has always been his condition. (i hate the *%^#* ant.) you're so great. it seems you really believed at that time you were called of god. i think i believed that also for a long time when i was a "non" ha hah ha member of the way i know you said you're not good. the bible says no one is good but god. but whatever, i don't get that so much of this is bulll$*@!

the devil and the artist stuff..... very mean and weird **** way off topic : some people on here still think the devil is involved in things (maybe things they don't understand).... but if it's something close to their heart, then they say the devil isn't involved....

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