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too bad the way college of emporia didn't have safeguards

thanks rasckie (as i call my lovely little bird) it's strange there is a part of me that wonders.... will wholeness ever happen until that great big gathering in the sky..... (god i hate that term) oops being a little dramatic here

i came from a background of going to the confessional also holding the top guy in such high esteem he was god anyway when i told veepee my past he told me it was horrendous and that god never wanted that to happen to me, but he would show me god's love through him HIM VEEPEE the way of man with a maid or why men of god are supposed to heal and teach the young girls i don't know i was such a jerk such a fool christ

thanks LG. it's interesting that some people would think i'm posting out of anger or passing the buck dah dah dahi guess you can't really know me from the forums as far as when i was child, i do not hold myself accountable for being sexually abused as a child. by the time i was a teenager and met wierwille, i have to tell you.... i had no clue.... no therapy.... no one to "ground" me, give me advice.... make things clear to me how i was not at fault.... etc. enter the great one.... vpw..... do you see what i'm getting at ? he knew my past.... it was only a few years before..... ok how much does one mature from age 11 to 18 under sexual incest and thinking ? i believe as a moggy mog he should have taken the high road which would have been kindness the love of christ etc. i'm an adult now. so all these questions about laws and newspapers.... really don't apply to who i was back then.... it's like i don't know i never would have gotten it. OBVIOUSLY i didn't get it. never occurred to me..... oh man i don't know how to explain it.... i'll chalk it up to my fog years ;) ;) ;)

interesting point wingnut.... many coming across as altruistic saviors :wub:

it's weird. not only would i never have dreamt of going to authorities about wierwille when i was young, i didn't even think about leaving the way until after he was dead obviously he's dead and can't do anything to anyone but maybe there are lessons to be learned about the kind of person he was and the kind of people we were or maybe it's therapeutic to talk about it people can do what they like. they can stay in the way ministry just like they can stay in the catholic church. i don't try to recruit people away from anything. but i talk freely about things that have happened in both groups especially things that have impacted me personally most my family doesn't like to hear it. they don't know what to do with it because they're so comfy. they don't mind if i talk about wierwille because that doesn't hit any personal nerves

i feel the same way about both organizations

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha allan you're too predictable

the hook guy at lovers lane and the boyfriend hanging from the tree are 2 different incidents :)

oh i think that's worth a lot frank !!!!

yeah it definitely went (and goes) both ways my aunt lil lived to be 100 never married. ha !

but i have the real diploma or am i missing the point sowwy thanks so much

it won't work for me because i don't know what i'm doing it's sitting in my kid's i-tune library, why i have no idea, i'm sure he doesn't want it in there. will that end up on his ipod ? when i play it, it won't make any noise our preferred listening thingy is windows media player um, we have cable connection optimum online i don't know what i'm doing wrong. i usually can open stuff up and hear it

thanks j yam !!! :) could be. very helpless feeling in those 2 dreams and hers are MORE interesting ??? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hais that what the devil is promoting these days ? i thought it was the internet women are too emotional? for what? for whom? don't these males believe god created these females just the way they are? maybe they were referring to rosalie

if the phys. ed. coach offered to shave his privates and march around in a g-string and stilettos.... i'd be concerned, but i think it's a supportive goof my little opinion only and i did not reply sooner because i had to think about it because i'm like miss paranoid when it comes to by kid love,ex ps. don't put it in writing, go talk to whomever face to face or just let it come up naturally at the next school thing

hi everybody i've been enjoying reading all your posts, lyrics, pics you're such nice people hey fellowskeeter i don't know where linda gerber baby is. her birthday was at the bottom of this here site (don't i sound like a southerner?)

well i thought so -- absolutely -- at the time. but looking back i was so screwed up and needy and confused. freshman in college from a really tough background. bad father. childhood sexual abuse. that sort of thing. the catholic priest and head hot dog and church in our hometown really hurt my little brothers, etc., etc.so i was kind of like prey sitting there praying. HELP ME i'm vulnerable wierwille definitely abused the trust i put in his class, his "ministry" his words, his pretend concern, his false kindness, his make-believe counseling sessions.... i don't what gets wierwilleites the angriest. i honestly do not think about it or set out to anger them. i just tell what happened to me and it feels good to do so after all these years of lying to myself and others. peace out (as my kid says ;)

i've done plenty of things in my life i regret, but i still don't give him a pass.... i don't think i'll ever try to rationalize his disgusting actions. did that for too too long. (not that you were saying that, eagle) as far as rewards, that subject kind of gives me the creeps. i guess i'm not a believing believer anymore god is still nice to me though :)

well i didn't read it all, i scrolled down to the pictures :) it sounds like a chiropractor for aligning your cranial bones (22 of 'em) i've always had a problem with my bite because i'm such a grinder - have been since i was little i've been treated for TMJ i always have neck problems i feel like i wish i could get my skull aligned !!!!

i have recurring dreams absolutely the most frequent one is that i never finish college. i'm always short a couple of credits. the dream really upsets me each time. i don't get the meaning. another one i have often is that i have to make it to a campus by a certain time. it's a block change after christmas break and right after i get t here, i'm supposed to go on LEAD. it's always very stressful there are others but those 2 came to mind immediately. i always feel panic when i have them. been going on for years

check this out. Dr. Gerald H. Smith http://www.icnr.com/articles/craniodontics.html

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haawwww tutties i didn't see your post 'til after my little one there CHMF thank you. that blesses me a lot :) tanks toppie and loaf and whoever believes me and doesn't think i'm the hospice person who never dies or the patron saint of the sexually abused ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha - two things said about me that will always remain in my heart ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha allan thanks for the bop :)

too tired to comment but that is sick

i'm truly sorry you had to go through such horrendous callous inhumane treatment, chas