excathedra

you're so lucky you feel upbeat

oh outie my damn soul sister :) why couldnt' you be born a man!

jesusmaryandjoseph, maybe the guy just meant he's dead

aside from EVERYTHING this psycho said..... oh thank you so much for that. my little brothers' lives were ruined at about age 10 and 11 (altar boys) because they did not have a good father. but "father" butler found them after having been tossed from one diocese to another i hope this guy and butler burn in hell and oh too many others to mention (top dog -- i forget his fkuning title -- and lay people) from the diocese.... ps. i absolutely do not look for these articles, but if i did, it would probably (at least i HOPE) make you sick with how many of them are out there

http://gma.yahoo.com/catholic-tv-star-rev-benedict-groeschel-defends-child-145215741--abc-news-topstories.html A well-known Catholic priest who hosts a weekly religious television show said in an interview this week that child sex abusers are often seduced by teenage boys and should not go to jail on a first offense. But the comments were removed by the website that published them and replaced by an apology from the priest and the site's editors. The Rev. Benedict Groeschel, 79, who hosts a weekly show on the Catholic television network EWTN, originally made the comments in an interview with the National Catholic Register. He also referred to convicted pedophile Jerry Sandusky as a "poor guy." "People have this picture in their minds of a person planning to -- a psychopath. But that's not the case. Suppose you have a man having a nervous breakdown, and a youngster comes after him. A lot of the cases, the youngster -- 14, 16, 18 -- is the seducer," Groeschel was quoted as saying in the interview, which is no longer available on the paper's website. The interview has now been replaced by a statement from Fr. Benedict: "I apologize for my comments," it said. "I did not intend to blame the victim. A priest (or anyone else) who abuses a minor is always wrong and is always responsible. My mind and my way of expressing myself are not as clear as they used to be. I have spent my life trying to help others the best that I could. I deeply regret any harm I have caused to anyone." Jeanette R. De Melo, the site's editor in chief, included her own apology for posting the interview. "Child sexual abuse is never excusable," she wrote. "The editors of the National Catholic Register apologize for publishing without clarification or challenge Father Benedict Groeschel's comments that seem to suggest that the child is somehow responsible for abuse. Nothing could be further from the truth." The interview, billed as a reflection on the 25 years since Groeschel founded the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal order, covered many topics, but Groeschel's comments on child sexual abuse brought it national attention. "Well, it's not so hard to see. A kid looking for a father and didn't have his own -- and they won't be planning to get into heavy-duty sex, but almost romantic, embracing, kissing, perhaps sleeping, but not having intercourse or anything like that. I's an understandable thing, and you know where you find it, among other clergy or important people; you look at teachers, attorneys, judges, social workers," Groeschel was quoted as saying. Quotes from the interview remained posted on websites including the National Catholic Reporter, the Huffington Post, and the Catholic blog Renew America, all of which criticized Groeschel for the remarks. Tom Roberts of the National Catholic Reporter called the comments "particularly disturbing" because of Groeschel's background in psychology. He received a Ph.D. in psychology from Columbia University. "(The comments) cannot stand unchallenged," Roberts wrote. Groeschel could not be reached for comment. Representatives for the National Catholic Register and EWTN did not immediately return calls for comment. Groeschel had also commented on recently-convicted pedophile Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State coach convicted of abusing 10 boys over a 15-year period. "Here's this poor guy -- Sandusky -- it went on for years. Interesting: Why didn't anyone say anything? Apparently, a number of kids knew about it and didn't break the ice. Well, you know, until recent years, people did not register in their minds that it was a crime. It was a moral failure, scandalous; but they didn't think of it in terms of legal things," Groeschel said. He also said that he did not think priests or lay people should go to jail based on a first offense of sexual behavior with young children. "At this point, (when) any priest, any clergyman, any social worker, any teacher, any responsible person in society would become involved in a single sexual act -- not necessarily intercourse -- they're done. And I'm inclined to think, on their first offense, they should not go to jail because their intention was not committing a crime."

ohhhhhhhhhh duhhhhhhhhhh having been in nashville, i thought i missed something

his jokes sucked and we were suck-ups for laughing :) rocky, thanks, good to see you

lol yam

ohmygosh steve on so many points. i love you - you are something else i didn't recall that you were a momentus person, thank you for letting me know i have to take meds

i love todd rundgren did i already post this? i tried to last night secular music example will follow. when i hear this, i think of jesus christ, not a lover (although i would love to)

oh tears heartache whenever i am reminded about the poor mom who killed her one and only little johnny

it's very personal for mejohnyam i LOVE dan's song "let us magnify the name of the lord" there are many others i love that have healed my heart and soul

thank you chockie. i think that's one reason i liked the little hole in the wall church i visited recently.== socks, what does way nash mean? and thank you some of the words to that song and your most recent post i recall me and me other half taking money out of the big horn to help people who had put the money the horn, but never telling a soul for fear of well you know

or perhaps a little statue of a guy nicknamed vpw

please don't take this wrong, I DON'T CARE

what kind of objects? dildos?

oh i didn't reply here? music - twi music - has healed my soul and life much more than teachings "secular" music - what a weird term -- too

you're so sweet kevin fallon god and christ have stayed in my life since leaving the wayfer international i'm not big on church, but i did attend one little sheet hole a few weeks ago and it was kind of nice. they were great lovers of jesus regardless of their belief that he i god wonder why i still am ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

there was so much going in my head as i read, that i can't remember it lol socks, what is "way nash"? trust and obey, i agree with soooooooo much of what you said um what else? at times i was very embarrassed when we sang to (unbelievers or believing unbelievers or goats or dogs or bats) guests at emporia i absolutely love "i don't know who holds tomorrow, but i know who holds my hand" every day is getting brighter as these golden stairs i climb every dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah there the sun is always shining no tears dah dah dah dah dah i don't know who holds tomorrow, but i know who holds my hand please socks, help me out here lol lol

thank you rottie i love your account as god's teeny weeny baby and you are so right about john walsh and his dear son adam something happened to me and it's a vague memory. i need to ask my mom about it someone stopped in a car to ask me for directions (but i was really young) however, i went right up to the car (against advice my parents had always given me). mom always said i was way too trusting and believed the best in EVERYBODY (no more lol) but somehow i got away from that car. i can't remember how. i'll try to see if my mom remembers.

do they still preach / teach against homosexuality ?

i'm with you human -- chock and steve, how can i ever thank you for your posts and most of all that you care about me?

i really didn't like that call and response thing, now that you mention it

i agree with steve and outie and others god was (and of course is) so wonderful that many miracles did happen in spite of wierwille oh, i just think about my own college days, north carolina, kansas, many others -- i see how god was so right there, but wierwille wasn't i also saw people healed/delivered/whatever, but it wasn't because they were pfal grads or at a mandatory healing session where advanced class grads had to step forward, you know?

thanks kit and everyone rottie, please plese, i want to hear about when you were a wee bittie little girl