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This is my last answer to you Mike. You have rejected deliverance more than once. I wipe the dust of my feet off against you. Until you get the deliverance you need or ask for it. John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. 10But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him. And here you are- Jude 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves. 11Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. 14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. 16These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men’s persons in admiration because of advantage. and to the rest of us... 17But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. 20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. 24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. Love to all, even Mike, Vert

You suck off of various truths that I and others have said in this forum. Like a leech. When are you going to grow up and think for yourself? The only reason I talk to you is because others here are listening. Tom Strange, I love your comments. It reminds me of that little paperclip in Microsoft Word. Tapping on the window to remind us of things.

Let me give a "pro pfal" def. of manifestation. You manifest what's on the inside of you all the time. Especially when you speak. Your words are a manifestion of what is in your mind. The manifestation of the spirit of God is listed in corinthians. The manifestion does not give Life. That is reserved for God alone. He gives Life, a gift from God. And there are manifestations of that gift. You can check what you are manifesting and see if it's from God if it produces Godly results. Godly results are also defined in many parts of the bible. Simply put-let's say a truck backs up to a dock. The driver hands you a manifest of what's inside that truck. When you open that truck you can see if the manifest agrees with what's inside. You are unloading your truck. Is it from God? Are there godly results? Are you manifesting from the Spirit of God? Or from something else. You can also manifest what's on your mind. Everyone does that when they speak or act. Nothing wrong with that. Simple enough?

You apparently do not understand the manifestation of what God can bring to pass on the inside. The first century people had more than you know. More then vp knew. More then you can grasp being limited to pfal (you aren't doing pfal anyway but your own version of it) and trying to make it work and give life. Maybe you should check out the schools of thought at the time of Jesus's life. What he learned as he was growing up. It was more then just learning the scriptures and the law.

btw abigail I figured out how to send files. When I tryed sending you some before, I didn't send it the right way.

So my mailbox verifier will still work with outlook. It will tell me when I get new messages without outlook running. btw mv doesn't work on e-mail accounts that are not pop accounts. Like the free one from yahoo. Although you can access the email account from mv's tray icon. Here's another program for cleaning the registry. http://www.jv16.org/ It now cost money. But I got it when it was free. I'm sure it's updated since my version, but the old one (registry cleaner) still works well. E-mail me if you want the free version. It creates backups whenever it changes anything, so it's safe to use. Checkout the screenshots of it. It will list all the programs on your comp. The ones you have uninstalled may be on there. So you can remove any remaining reg. entries. So any feed back on what I've posted here would be appreciated. Anyone try any of these programs?

igotout OK. I loaded outlook03, everything seems to be working fine. A different look but kind of the same. I haven't learned everything about yet, but it's working. Are there any alerts for new mail when outlook is closed? In other words will it notify you of new mail even without outlook running? Thanks for encouraging me to load it.

Steve L. you are being very thorogh in your research. Which ain't bad. While def made some general statements that are not specifically pointing out certain things. 2 ways of thinking. Both have it's good points. Combine the 2 and you get an even different perspective. btw I was glad to see that second post :)-->

Good points def59. I like these verses at the end of Romans 11 33O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen. ---- Romans 11:21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. The question is graffed into what? The mind of the Lord in verse 34 could be what the subject is, not eternal Life. "God is able to graff them in again." Time after time the mercy and grace of God shows itself.

Man I just keep coming up with more stuff! Check this out-a spell checker-it works in this forum when you post a reply. Right click and hit "check spelling"! Cool. And free! http://www.iespell.com/

1 Corinthians 10:32Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: This is the verse that was used to say that parts of the bible were written to one of these 3 groups. Context anyone? Sheesh, why were we not thinking? The scriptures are for our learning, all of them new and old testament to ALL people. So what does this mean? Romans 15:4For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. "aforetime" What time? Pfal says the day of pentecost. I don't buy it. It's a time and times in our life. Not a date recorded in the history books or in the scriptures. Yet it's in there, in the scriptures, as we live it. Romans 2:10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11For there is no respect of persons with God. Keep the elephant in mind while looking at the tail. Look at the whole picture. It's like a jigsaw puzzle. Some pieces fit slowly others go so fast you can barely keep up. Love your posts Steve Lortz. Keep 'em coming when your ready. vert

Hey Abigail, check this out http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm http://aumha.org/freeware/freeware.htm Might help you or some others here.

I've learned that these MVP,s on the newsgroups know what they are talking about. If it finds a virus I don't know if it'll clean it for you or not. But there are fixes for viruses out there for free. These MVP's can point you in the right direction to get the fix. Just type in "microsoft newsgroups" in your search engine and have fun learning! Try them newsgroups for problems with anything....well....related to windows anyway.

True. But this one is recomended by a microsoft MVP. Something I learned from browsing the microsoft newsgroups. It didn't find any on my comp. I tryed it because the MVP said it will detect viruses that norton may not pick up.

Abigail Don't take anyone's word for it. You will know it when you see it. According to mike everything vp says (within his context)is true. Well I could say the same thing! Everything I say is true. See-I said it-but that don't mean it is. You are right. Without God's guidance we are lost with the scriptures or anything anyone else says that God has said. Trust your common sense. Your God given right to think. The Word of Life is there. Well protected from fools, abusers and those who do not have heart. vert