Nathan_Jr

Like, "Mogadishu kuala lumpur jakarta lo shonta..." (That'll show him not to sleep during corps night teaching!) What at comedy!

Thanks!

He made it available? Of course. How can you get something if it's not available? What is the source of this quote? Did anyone here submit a pledge of allegiance on a 3x5 card? What does that look like? This is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. Cults and their 3x5 cards!

Loy Craig had this kind of authority as far back as 1976?!? When did victor rub oil on Loy’s head? 1982?

Does faith imply obedience? Find out for yourself. I’m not finished thinking about this asserted claim, but I’m inclined, at this moment, to suspect some theological maneuvering. I think the more important implication is a subtle, sinister one: faith implies obedience - obedience to the clergy. How will you learn, unless you are taught? And who will teach you? A man of God, of course! How will you know he is a man of God? He himself will say so of himself.

Except there IS a 'new class.' Even Mike admitted to taking it. It costs $100. The duration is 18 hours - 14 hours too long. https://www.theway.org/blog/power-for-abundant-living-today/ And, in spite of their massive endowment, they will gladly take your money - they've made it very easy. https://www.theway.org/giving/ GSC makes it easy to give money, and it will gladly take it, also. It cost money to run the servers that host this site. The owners of GSC are not getting rich and the donors are not going broke - can't say the same for TWI.

These wretched, depraved humans occupy the #3 spot among the top ten most wicked people in our day and time.

The foolish fool said with his mouth, "Lo Shanta." Let Snowball Pete interpret.

Got... ...to... ...make... it... ...FIT! The Bible doesn't have one author. This is obvious to anyone who has ever studied the Bible. When you say Author, you me victor's god? Why do you capitalize Author?

More accurately, The interpretation of the sentence "the Bible interprets itself," according to the resources WITHIN the sentence, is: the only valid interpretation of the Bible is victor's. When one turns away from idolatry and error and makes a free will choice to love God, Truth, one can understand the sinister meaning of this devilish doctrine.

Mmmmmph Where do priests and bishops and popes who force children into sodomitic sessions go?

The interpretation of the sentence "the Bible interprets itself," according to the resources WITHIN the sentence, is: the only valid interpretation of the Bible is victor's. When one turns away from idolatry and error and makes a free will choice to love God, Truth, one can understand the sinister meaning of this devilish doctrine.

Riiiiiiiiiight. It has? No one is upset. Again, no one's upset. That's all there is to understand about that. Good for you. Sounds like you are quite satisfied with your own private interpretations of victor's verbiage. Bravo! So proud of ya. Is that your own private interpretation of what it FIRST says to you? Strange. That's not at all what the sentence itself says. Thanks. So what? You're wrong. Ha ha!! "Airline fiends." You got the wrong impression. That's kinda what "The Bible interprets itself" is saying. You haven't? We all crawl before we walk. Proud of ya! More accurately: HOW (H-OW) to interpret the Bible, according to victor's schema. Why is victor's private interpretation better than your own? The resources WITHIN? Resources? Within? Like the "resources" WITHIN a Borges poem, a Steely Dan song, or a Terrence Malick film? This makes no sense.

I want make clear, in light of so many cryptic posts in this thread, I use TWI as a fiat, a symbol, an idea, a shorthand. In the context of my post, TWI represents: any person who imitates and stands on the shoulders of victor paul wierwille; any person propagating the cultic ideology of victor paul wierwille; the error of victor paul wierwille; or the ideology of victor paul wierwille. I do not, in this context, mean the corporate entity that is TWI. I was never involved with that. I was sucked into an orbit of destruction generated by a handful of sycophants, devotees and apologists of VPW. These people were, in fact, card-carrying members and lovers of the corporation at one time. These people abandoned the corporation, like so many, in the late 1980s. But they remained committed to VPW, as they have been since joining CORPS in the late 1970s.

Will you?

Ok. Indeed, a lot of content on the internet, especially, social media, is fake, inauthentic, bull$hit. This is true, factual. But not all internet content is bull$hit. Being able to discern the bull$hit is important. Only we can discern for ourselves. I can't rely on the people responsible for their content to discern it for me. And, yes, much fakery and deception in twig. Discerning this fakery is our responsibility, just as it's the responsibility of the twig leaders to vomit the fakery, or not. But my interactions with the people in twig were definitely real. Even if they were real fake. Not sure what you mean by this. What do you think is the answer to all this deception and bull$hit?

I don't think I suggested TWI is an autonomous being. Corporations are abstract entities. They may be comprised of and operated by people. They may just exist on paper.

The internet isn't an autonomous being. The internet can't be responsible for abuse or stupidity. People are responsible for how they act. People are responsible for being stupid and cruel. People are responsible for how they digest and assimilate information they read. The internet is not responsible, people are.

But TWI makes it everybody's business with their evangelizing and proselytizing and gaslighting and abusing and stealing and destroying. I wish they could keep their business to themselves, but they can't and won't. The pressures to sell "the class" is one way they make it EVERYBODY'S business. I married a woman who was born into a TWI/CORPS family. I never condemned, nor questioned, her beleeefs. They just never really came up, or else I just lovingly tolerated the silliness. But the pressure to bend my knee to victor became seemingly insurmountable at some point. In an effort to keep the peace and do whatever it took to save a marriage I was gaslighted to believe I ruined, I took "the class" and attended fellowship with an open mind and heart. Before I took "the class," my life was replete with what many here would call signs, miracles, wonders and revelation. I'm embarrassed to even mention this, because I never considered any of this miraculous or special or worthy of boasting, which I'm painfully trying to avoid right now. Since a very young age, I experienced countless healings - physical, mental, spiritual - and had never been to a doctor or had a vaccine. My life was full of love and joy and contentment and professional success and gratitude. All my needs were met. I walked in the light of the Love of God. But the proselytizers of TWI couldn't keep their shonta in their own toilet. They had to share it with me by force. They had push my face into their shonta. TWI made their business my business. And their business is destruction. So, fvck them for destroying my life! They should have kept their business to themselves. Thank God for GSC, open forums, and free speech.

It was after a fellowship where he held forth on the names of God. I mentioned "Yahweh." With forced, blank smugness, he said something like, "I don't know what that is." Implying, "you're stupid. I'm not. Keep your mouth shut. Absorb, retain, release." In the moment, I was mildly embarrassed, because I just didn't know enough about it to discuss. More than anything, I was frustrated with his willful ignorance and unwillingness to go beyond what he had been taught.

Maybe comments like these are part of the reason why I waste my time here. Can you expound on this?

Thanks. Absurd, indeed.

Right. The letter J emerged for the first time in the early 16th century. The letter J wasn't known in the 1st century. I don't remember PFAL covering the letter J or the Tetragrammaton or "Yahweh." When I brought up this topic one day in fellowship, the twig leader, a former CORPS, said he had no idea what I was talking about. He insinuated that I was a mere ignorant, immature babe in the Word and that I should focus on absorbing the indoctrination. Questions should not be asked, not even at the end - at least, this is how I was made to feel. What about El or Elohim? LORD God is used for the first time in Genesis 2:4. All prior verses only use El or Elohim. I've always wondered about this. What are your thoughts, WW?

Held responsible for what? Held responsible by whom?

The sad irony is these are the very things one stands to lose by remaining in a cult, by imitating victor, by standing on his shoulders.