Nathan_Jr

Charity, I would encourage you to read widely and deeply on GSC. Many dozens of victor's asserted claims have been refuted with evidence here. Current posters have convincingly refuted victor's quackery, as have others who aren't so regular anymore, like Raf and Skyrider and Penworks... (and others I can't recall at this moment.) There is nothing to fear, including the possibility of being wrong. When one first admits to not knowing and embraces that not knowing, so much will be revealed that was previously unseen by smug, all-knowing eyes. When one admits to knowing nothing, one can know so much. A paradox.

This is such a typical, childish cop out maneuver. Anyone serious about real, honest research would be happy to have a an honest discussion about it. Arriving at a different conclusion doesn't mean one thinks they know more than somebody. It just means one is no longer convinced of the other's proposition. That leader, imitating victor, was likely too embarrassed of his own ineptitude (again, imitating victor) that all he could do was deflect and pout (again, imitating victor).

Thanks. So John S. Isn’t a research superstar after all. I haven’t read Juedes’ refutation, but it’s not hard to do. I worked it myself. Four crucified is a willfully ignorant proposition.

Thanks! I know Martin was very enthusiastic in his own Biblical research. And he was a contemporary of victor paul wierwille. I'm curious, does anyone know whether or not Martin bought into the four crucified bullshonta?

No, you don't know? Or, no, he didn't buy the bullshonta?

Naturally. If victor paul wierwille was wrong about PROS and DECHOMAI and four crucified and the bastard bar mitzvah and.... what else could he be wrong about?

Right. Some of his logic seems compelling, as does the logic of other scholars with different conclusions. Do you know if Martin bought into the four crucified hoax?

Has anyone tested and verified Martin's proposed dating? Does he propose this birthdate as a probability or a certainty?

Not a counterfeit, not even a close counterfeit, but a close, close counterfeit?

You FINALLY got it right! So, so right! The duck just sits there... like a duck.

That duck weighs itself.

Wrong administration. You're confused about to/for.

I’d keep it foundational, Biblically derivative. With this in mind, the only REAL way to know is to deliver a beating. If she doesn’t die within two days, she’s innocent.

ROTFLMAO….they call it HQ

60% of the time it works EVERY time.

There’s a whole chapter on how (H-O-W) to poison one’s wife to test the validity of one’s insecure, neurotic suspicions.

@Mike Which one of the following is an UNVARNISHED historical account of the so called 1942 promise? A) God spoke audibly to victor. B) victor asserted a claim that God spoke audibly to him.

I never claimed to know anything about him. That’s why I asked. Not projecting at all. Merely saying what YOU made him SOUND like. Like a SUPERSTAR researcher? I have read the paper. Did he ever super research his way into discovery of the error that is four crucified? Or any of the hundreds of victor’s errors?

Schoenheit has it? He is the arbiter? He has the Truth?

The primary and lasting error of victor paul wierwille's "ministry" is that the Truth is something to be possessed, and victor is the one who has it, and you, too, can have it if you only imitate him and stand on his shoulders. A wicked deception.

Why? How could they when they were conditioned to not go beyond what the charlatan taught?

A temporary sheltering of the truth? A postponed disillusionment? Wow. The progressive, far left woke want the same thing. Hiding uncomfortable truth deprives people from learning how to deal with and understand it. This is ALWAYS a bad strategy, because truth will always, eventually, emerge. Then what? You are left with people Ill equipped to handle the truth.

How would he have known? Why would he be the one that would have known? He did? That's his opinion. You make him sound like someone with a lack of in depth perception and awareness.

It was the DOCTRINES of victor paul wierwille that imitators used to justify their sin.