Nathan_Jr

Thank you

So, the WORD is NOT the ministry? The ministry and victor paul wierwille would disagree. The truth of the ministry, which is the WORD, according to the ministry, must include all the facts of the ministry to know the truth of it.

We're talking past each other, again. When you say greatest commandment, I think of Jesus's explaining of the greatest commandment: love God; and like it, love your neighbor as yourself. What you are talking about, I understand, but please know, your word choice can be confusing for those of us keeping it simple. Please consider an alternate wording of the greatest commandment simplification. Because, what you are talking about is NOT the greatest commandment as revealed by Christ. Maybe sin simplification would be more throughly effectual. I never, ever, believed there were any saint goodydoody types to be found. And I never heard nor considered the guilt trip of being habitually guilty of the greatest sin. That guilt trip was first taught to me and laid on me in the class. My heart isn't desperately evil. Paul wasn't accurate about EVERYTHING. I never heard the guilt trip of falling short of the glory of God, and was never taught I was dead in sins until I took the class. You can't tell me I live my life focused only on my pleasure and not focused on God. You, nor victor, nor the priestly class, nor the clergy, nor Saul of Tarsus, knows anything about me. This is religious, gaslighting dogma that I reject. We can agree to disagree on your religious, doctrinal dogmatism.

I seem to remember the same, and this chest thumping persists today. The logic says this "research" ministry founded by a huckster, and no other, takes the place of the absent Christ. This TWI ministry alone holds the Truth. This is "spiritual elitism" and it is fundamental to the indoctrination, the conditioning. All of this is a lie. If the ministry be not blamed, let it be blameless.

Mmmmph

Dancing Gumby? The renewed mind is the key, moonwalking, viral video with 170M views, dancing Gumby boy? WTAF is this?? .... you don't have to answer

Remember so-called boy bands from the 90s? Backstreet Boys, NSynch, et al.? You know what would be a great name for a boy band in 2022? Specifically, a Christian boy band.... a Christian rockabilly boy band.... a Christian rockabilly boy band specializing in weddings... The ECNs

Yikes!

Didn’t you post a video once?

Hey! I think TWI has one of those!

While your at it, will you please correct them on the errors of four crucified and crowing cocks? There are hundreds of errors that need correcting, but we should take it slowly, to your point.

Ummm…. Gwantchally peeahcherry?

Why would you equate the greatest commandment simplification with sin simplification?

I don't mind if it's mere speculation. Can anyone explain Mike's postulate: Greatest Commandment = sin

You do know OJ was REALLY guilty, right? And those gloves? Those were REALLY his gloves. He just pretended they didn't fit.

The Greatest Commandment, it seems to me, is a reduction of all other commandments into one: Love. So, it seems to me, it is already simplified. HOWEVER, for 2000 years this was misunderstood and complicated by churchianity, until victor came along and simplified it? For this we are to be thankful? I don't get it.

Can anyone help me with Mike's postulate? Greatest Commandment = Sin

And Ys

I quoted you in context. The context was not sin simplification, it was "greatest commandment simplification." I asked for clarification, but you went off on sin simplification. Based on the words you wrote and in context, how could anyone reasonably guess "greatest commandment simplification" REALLY means "sin simplification"?

No !!! You failed to absorb it the first time. superSTARsperm Got it?

I was referring explicitly and simply to the Greatest Commandment. Matthew 22: 35-40.

Because it is so complicated it requires simplification?

Right. He either commanded God or threatened God with an ultimatum. I think all cult founders make a claim of divine revelation or special, secret knowledge. It's a common, consistent trait, if I remember correctly.

I think the suggestion is vic picked up the serpent seed from Branham. That's plausible. After all, vic learned where he could -- it was putting it all together that was the original work. Maybe, they were both part of the zeitgeist of Pentecostal preachers in mid 20th century Merica. I suspect there were many more just like them. Branham had a healing ministry that he converted to a teaching ministry in the 1960s, because there was more money in teaching. They were both part of a trend, a movement of religious hucksters. They all followed the money.

Branham had a 1947 promise. Apparently, like victor paul wierwille, he embellished his story further to MAKE it fit with the establishment of the nation of Israel, but he screwed up the dates, like wierwille did with his snow storms. Branham said he had received an angelic visitation on May 7, 1946, commissioning his worldwide ministry.[74] In his later years, he also connected the angelic visitation with the establishment of the nation of Israel, at one point mistakenly stating the vision occurred on the same day.[75][75][d][e] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Branham As victor paul wierwille was a Holocaust denier, Branham was a lover of the KKK. There are so many parallels between Branham and wierwille. Maybe Branham was the 6th THE Man of God.... (Got to track down that music coordinator.)