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Nathan_Jr

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  1. Why? What was wrong with it? What changes did you make? I wish I could read it in the original.
  2. Right. I was frequently told, "You should be thankful to Doctor Wierwille for teaching you tha werd." It's a form of gaslighting. It's a wicked thing to say. But it was only important to THEM that I take "the class." I never wanted to take it. I always politely declined and changed the subject. (I was already used to deflecting the pressure from my aunt to join "the business.") IIRC they thought they would receive extra "heavenly rewards" for everyone they signed up. I thought: Now, that's a dandy. "kuala lumpur mogadishu carne asada." Interpretation: I'm still waiting for that "thank you."
  3. Never got a "thank you" for sitting through it the first time. I'll pass.
  4. He sure did! I almost forgot about that. Guess I didn't fully absorb it the first time.
  5. That's a bold theory. Radical, even. Mike is an expert on gravitational waves. He has a folder full of notes and essays on Einstein. It's archived.
  6. Maybe. My fellowship commander used to point toward the ceiling (or sky) when talking about his Gawd or Jesus. I think he meant it literally as a spatial reference. Mike said his Gawd requires binoculars to see his children. His Gawd is far away up there. Again, it's spatial. I think he means it literally, also.
  7. Yeah. "Up there." Always thought that was strange. But it fits with a flat earth model. If there is UP, there must be DOWN -- turtles all the way.... So, so, so many questions, indeed.
  8. Wow. Just.... wow... Victor can hardly open his mouth or copy a page of text without showing his hand. A man of God? Which god? To validate this trivialization and conceptualization of God, beleeef is required. A trivial concept of God must be TAUGHT and then beleeeved.
  9. Mike: "God covers for us the best He can" **** What a patronizing, condescending thing to say. What does "God's best" look like? Sounds like it won't be quite enough. Sounds like another limit on what God is able to do.
  10. Mike: It is good to keep diligent track of what you know for sure from what you don't know for sure. Nate: I doubt it. I don't keep track. I don't need to. It wouldn't help. It's a silly waste of time. (I already have plenty of silly time-wasting pastimes.) The problem is tracking the unknown unknowns. There are things I know that I know - known knowns. There are things that I know I don't know - known unknowns. And then there are things that I don't know that I don't know - unknown unknowns. How do you track the unknown unknowns? You can't. That's how. H - O - W
  11. "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts."
  12. I don't know, but I do know it is used as a source of great conflict and division. I never really knew that the Bible could be used for those things until I took "the class."
  13. And no one to teach it. The Teacher was still hundreds of years away in the future. God was unable and unwilling to teach anyone anything during the medieval period. This, according to The Teacher.
  14. Who killed your cat? If you hadn’t been so full of fear, your cat would still be alive?
  15. But Churches A, B and C all disagree on what the Bible says, partly because the Bible disagrees with itself on certain issues, partly because of differing interpretations.
  16. Often, if not always, paradoxes are unsolvable. That's why they are paradoxes. Isn't trying to solve a paradox futile? Is a solution desired? Is it not enough to just see the paradox for what it is?
  17. There are lessons in paradox. Does that make paradox a teacher? Can you write your questions on a 3x5 card and mail them to: The Paradox, P.O. Box...?
  18. In a way unbelief could mean letting go, as belief could mean clinging. Maybe not making a choice, rather, being without choice, without attachment, open. For me, BELEEF in dogma is problematic. Discrepancies are a problem if you start with the proposition that there are no discrepancies. Yeah, the story is a teacher is an awkward idea for me. Been thinking about that. Not sure.
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