Nathan_Jr

Funny and sad. Martindale, Corps and Corps Nazis are of the seed of victor paul wierwille. There is no Corps or Martindale without victor paul wierwille. PERIOD. I've read accounts from people who knew LCM before he was inseminated by vpw. The difference is a white-heart-black-heart kind of difference. LCM, the Corps, and everyone else were spiritually raped by vpw. Even the hippies of Rye and the House of Acts were spiritually raped by victor's wicked phallus. I wonder how far they might have gone. I wonder what kind of continued impact they might have had, if they had not been stolen by the thief who came to steal, kill and destroy. Mike has admitted on other threads that bias is a good thing. He has also admitted to not understanding confirmation bias. He has admitted to clutching and clinging to his bias. He beleeves in his bias.

“Hold my beer,” say physicists Donald Hoffman, Wolfgang Smith, Bernardo Kastrup, Tom Campbell… Why? Which scriptures? Are you sure? How do you know?

Yikes!

No! Criminy! Doors are time. How many times do I have to explain it? Not rules. Laws. LAWS. His hands are tied. He's a law maker not a law breaker. He's not strong enough or courageous enough or creative enough to break his own laws. Hey! He's willing, but he's unable. But, boy, oh boy, is he willing. But not able. Just like it sounds: A-B-L-E. He's a pun-kass simp of a god. A construct of mortal thought. Got ta make it fit. Golly gee whiz!

God was willing but unable due to legal constraints, and, presumably, budget cuts (aka little boy killers). This is not the same god victor “taught.”

Poor victor "taught" that his bit-chass god's ability is equal to his willingness. But in Job a conceptual, allegorical god's ability and willingness are not equal, rather, they are contingent upon this god teaching Job to beleeeve rightly? I'm sure this contradiction is merely apparent, and with enough fudging and logical magic, it all can be made to fit... like a hand in a

MIKE: ...in science the idea is to control experiments so that the many other forces that at work are eliminated, and then one particular force can be studied in isolation. Do you mean controlled experiments? Forces aren't eliminated, rather, variables are controlled. Experiments need not be performed in a vacuum. This is scientific method 101. How could you be so far off the mark with this? Didn't you spend years fetching coffee, cleaning toilets and washing windows for "super star scientists"? (Rhetorical questions. Bullshonta answers are not solicited.)

What more could be said? What a fountain of ignorance! What abject contempt for sound mind! Wow. Just... wow... "There's not a pill you can take, there's not a class you can go to... stupid is forever." -- R. White

Were WOW burgers stretched like the coffee? (Real question.)

If an analogy must be inexhaustibly explained, decoded or clarified, then it's an ineffectual analogy. It's not REALLY an analogy at all. An analogy is a comparison of two things for the purpose of clarification. The analogy itself is the clarifier. Same goes for metaphors. If one must perform acrobatic logical leaps and imaginative jumps to hyper space to explain a metaphor, it's a poorly constructed and ineffectual metaphor.

Amen and amen.

Uh-oh

Did you speak with the expert? What kind of questions were asked? The findings were that TWI is, indeed, a cult? Were these findings acknowledged by the cult "leadership"? This seems so strange to me. Cults don't allow this kind of investigation. Then again, a cult in full blown denial, a cult of the seed of victor, would do anything, no matter how stoopid, to perpetuate the myth and keep the money coming. It seems to me if a group has to ask, "Are we a cult?", they probably are. Bizarre.

I just posted the following in the doctrinal budget thread. Maybe it fits better here? No matter how (H-O-W) one parses the huckster's bullshonta, logical leaps, imaginary constructions, scriptural twistings and back door cop outs will always be required to make it fit. ALWAYS. "You're missing a step... the definition has changed... that's not the right goal post... you didn't REALLY understand it the first time... the huckster didn't REALLY teach it that way... the huckster didn't REALLY mean what he said... it's not in God's budget... there are other forces stronger than God.. but not REALLY... got to keep your realms rightly divided...." It's turtles all the way down. Why do people fall for this bulls hit?

No matter how (H-O-W) one parses the huckster's bullshonta, logical leaps, imaginary constructions, scriptural twistings and back door cop outs will always be required to make it fit. ALWAYS. "You're missing a step... the definition has changed... that's not the right goal post... you didn't REALLY understand it the first time... the huckster didn't REALLY teach it that way... the huckster didn't REALLY mean what he said... it's not in God's budget... there are other forces stronger than God.. but not REALLY... got to keep your realms rightly divided...." It's turtles all the way down. Why do people fall for this bulls hit?

When was this? Besides the wooden spoon, what other practices or doctrines were modified to make victor’s cult appear less like a cult?

What?!?! OMG! This is hilarious. So stoopid. I already knew victor was a dump-dumb waterhead baby, but Rosalie makes him seem as smart as a sixth-grader. It says so much about...EVERYTHING. Is there already a thread on this? Could you point me in the right direction? Or could you explain more here? I mean, we are in the humor sub forum, right? So, it's relevant.

No doubt. Victor also wrote and uttered thousands of astonishingly nonsensical and poorly constructed sentences like this.

Oh no! Not the ECN folder! Don’t do it…. Dooooon’t do it… …. what? Not enough time? Of course not. (Whew!! That was close!)

You think wrongly. My advantage is that I look at them with a clear mind, a mind free from conditioning, free from indoctrination, free from expectations, free from conclusions, free from emotion, free from beleeef. Emotion doesn't need to be suppressed. That's childish. That's not how I deal with emotion. I'm not on a ride and I'm not hooked. I take no free rides. victor did, though. He took a free ride on the backs of so many. He thought he could freely spit in the face of a messenger of God. Look what happened. He paid the ultimate price. There's your fruit, unchanging.

I did, indeed, mean 1971. The transcript of the "teaching" on Romans with Q&A is from 1973. The errors just LEAP off every page. No need to look for them. They will find you. Also, CF&S syllabus and film from 1975. All are evidence from the alleged golden years before things went from bad to worse. It's hard to read them without flinching, cringing, laughing or vomiting.

That’s right. Thanks. I wouldn’t want to be off victor’s words. His own words reveal his depravity and stupidity.

Right! That, too! What is “in depth spiritual awareness and peception”? Is that on the green card? Advanced Class?

From all the unvarnished history told and examined in this forum, it should be impossible to logically separate the Corps from victor. Corps is of the seed of vpw. LCM is of the seed of vpw — oily head and all. To deny this fact is to, well, be in denial. This denial comes from a lack of “in depth spiritual awareness and perception.” This denial is a manifestation of willful ignorance and intellectual dishonesty. And I’m inclined to beleeve it is no coincidence that the advent of Way Corps came a few years AFTER the founding of Sea Org. Way Corps is to vpw as Sea Org is to L. Ron Hubbard. Victor learned from whomever he could. If it was right on with effectual indoctrination, isolation, control and supply exploitation, he kept it. If it wasn’t, he dropped it. Hey! I didn’t write the book.

I have the complete transcripts of AC72 and AC79. Both taught directly by Vic. They include Q&A sessions at the end where vic “answers” questions. The questioners are named. The transcripts are fascinating and astonishing primary sources of historical evidence. No matter how hard one tries, they can’t be whitewashed. They can’t be misinterpreted. They can’t be misunderstood. I could send them to you, if you want.