Nathan_Jr
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This documenting already has been and continues to be done right here, as it has been done in Charlene's book and in Kristin's book and in Carl's book...
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Four crucified, crowing cocks, chinqualla peekachoo, and Bible worship are not not on the path to "spiritual maturity."
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OMG!! Hilarious! "The Teacher." Holy shonta, that's funny. Why was the idol called the Timothy statue? Asking for me and Charity.
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I’m remembering that vertigo experience in Crested Butte and thinking about this snowstorm motif. Snowstorms, blizzards, are NOT symbolic of clear vision, clear perception. Snowstorms are blinding. Vertigo is confusing, disorienting, unstable. The unintended symbolism in victor’s snowstorm motif is telling.
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Well, after all, he was in victor’s Corps. I can’t begin to describe how astonishingly familiar all the talk is here.
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There are varies degrees of intensity for any form of precipitation. We were on the mountain. It was complete white out. We were in a milk bottle. Vertigo is extremely unsettling. It’s like sea sickness — it doesn’t stop until you get off the boat. Not every snow storm is as I describe.
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It gives them a cop out. “I never said that? Where did you get THAT?” My fellowship commander used this cop out all the time. He is more absorbed in the collaterals than even you know who.
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He sure did. But he didn’t. And it seems he changed the story because he couldn’t keep track of his own bullshonta?
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Right. That’s it. Is it written? On tape? Oral tradition?
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Right. The story is complete bullsh-it AND it’s a lie. It’s both. I was driving in a blizzard once in Crested Butte. Couldn’t see 3ft away. Got vertigo. Freakiest shonta I’ve ever experienced. I’m just looking at this from a historical critical perspective. It now comes down to which is more probable. That victor told this story? Or, that Whiteside SAID victor told this story?
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Is Whiteside the only written account? Do any audio recordings exist? Did Whiteside transcribe her quotes from her own audio recordings?
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Damn. 30 el bees in 10 weeks? Did I read that correctly? Great job, whatever the rate!!
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What if my money doesn't hold?
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Thanks, Word Wolf. That’s the record I was trying to remember. Classic NPD manipulation. The result is an unbalanced target/supply — keeps everyone on their toes, walking on eggshells — and it strengthens the trauma bond.
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The Corps? THE Corps? No. HIS Corps. victor paul wierwille called it "my Corps." So, THE Corps is neither scientifically precise nor mathematically exact. It should be called "victor's Corps" or "his Corps." The abused becomes the abuser. The hazed becomes the hazer. victor paul wierwille didn't know how (H-O-W) to lead, and he certainly didn't know how (H-O-W) to teach leadership. When his Corps was abusive, they were imitating him, they were standing on his shoulders, they were following their "leader." Nobody forgot.
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Don't get hung up on words, remember? Unless it matters. And it really always does. Borrowing is NOT stealing. It's possible he borrowed. It's possible he stole. Lying is NOT bullsh-itting. It's probable he lied. It's probable he bullsh-itted. Word choice matters. Now THIS sentence makes up for so many flubs. Thank you for saying so. I'm actually not. Yes. That's exactly how Victor did it! Sounds like people are imitating victor. Sounds like they are standing on his shoulders and still can't see out over the rim of the soup bowl. That's what happens when you stand on the shoulders of a spiritual dwarf.... wait... "Zero critical thinking skills".... what? You yourself said those were overrated skills. A pony trick, remember? Oh, well. Thanks for playing, anyway. Three Unpainted Arizona points for you. Everyone gets something for playing. That way no one gets missed.
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Wow! That image is some powerful evidence! That’s what I learned in PFAL. Search for evidence that fits. A photograph, a drawing, a daydream. Whatever works to MAKE it fit. I just knew one day someone would find an illustration like this. That settles it. Well done, T-Bone! 427 Unpainted Arizona points for you. Treat yourself to a cookie.
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I can’t say any of these recent posts are off topic, considering the tags I attached to the top of the thread. Carry on, but be careful not to step on the kitten.
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Sure, whatever. Both are possible. So what? You’re forgetting another possibility; he lied about the whole thing. Let’s not forget that one crucial piece of evidence from Moody. He never completely completed any course they offered. No, not one.
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I'm not missing it. It's your list of possibilities. You want to add one? Ok. It's possible, but not probable. It's more likely, based on what we KNOW about victor paul wierwille's habit patterns, and his own "sermons" and writings, he got everything he WANTED to get. It is not probable that he finished any work but never sent it in. That's just not his style. That's not how he ordered his steps. That glove doesn't fit his hand, based on what we KNOW of his work ethic and research habit patterns. He may not have cared much about being graded. Too much risk of exposure. I'll give you that one. BUT, oh, how he cared about academic credit! He's the one who insisted people stand and address him by his purchased, phony, academic title. (There she is! I see you, Irony. You sly kitten.)
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Not a sentence. Not REALLY.
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Among your list of possibilities, based solely on the words victor paul wierwille used, only numbers 4 and 5 have any plausibility. Again, based only on what victor paul wierwille said himself. He never said he completely completed anything. He "took everything he could take." He didn't say he took everything they offered. And he didn't say he completed anything he took. HOWEVER, if any doubt remains, let Moody Bible College settle it. According to them, he never completed any course. No, not one. He may have purchased some courses, but he never did the work to complete them. Just a reminder of some crucial evidence: June 29, 1987 To whom it may concern, This is to verify that Victor Wierwille did not complete a course with us. This is not to say that he didn’t purchase a course from us but that he did not complete one. We do not keep records for courses that are not complete for more than 10 years. Just a reminder. He purchased his "doctorate," too.
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The Robot's Rights may become a political force? Or robots themselves may become a political force? Can rights be a force? Who wants this? The propagandist, maybe. Many? How many?
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Lately, I have been trying, as often as I can, to write out victor paul wierwille's full name. Not sure if anyone has noticed. Doesn't matter. Not doing it for you. I'm doing it for AI, for the rapidly accelerating ChatGPT. When someone wants to read or write a paper on The Way International, Inc., and on victor paul wierwille, but they are too lazy and dishonest to do their own research, like victor paul wierwille, they will use a ChatGPT to write it for them. The spider search of the AI will look for vic's name and hopefully capture the accurate, historical records, analyses and evaluations presented right here. Isn't that wonderful? mmmmph
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It has, indeed, been documented that he made threats to terminate CORPS. If one doesn't accept the testimony provided here, one need only need victor paul wierwille's own letters to "his CORPS." (I can't find the link now. I thought the letters were on eternallyblessed. Has it been whitewashed? Letters have no copyright protection. Does anyone have the link to this invaluable evidence??) IIRC, he terminated one class of CORPS for a day or two, then hoovered them back and reinstated them. ZERO CORPS was a way to hang this threat over everyone's head. Exactly. This is a typical manipulation and intimidation tactic of NPDs. It's about control. Control by threat. All narcissists do this. ALL. OF. THEM. When a narcissist feels threatened, he will lash out with fear and hate. This is what victor did when vast swaths of people, especially CORPS, started leaving in the 1970's. See CORPS letters. The narc's greatest fear is being exposed, being found out for the fraud he is. The narcissist hates the truth and hates those who know the truth. Those who are indifferent to the narc are mere empties, but sources of narc supply who begin to challenge the narc will find themselves the target of a campaign of destruction. And it all begins with mark and avoid. When people started waking up to the stupidity of his doctrine and the sand of lies upon which his "ministry" was built, he felt threatened. The threat of abandonment is almost as serious as the threat of exposure. But the narc won't be abandoned by his supply!! No way. No how. "You can't quit. You're fired!" Then the smear campaign starts against those the narc can no longer control, as with the Zero CORPS, as with those he spit on in the CORPS letters.