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  1. Nathan_Jr
    We’ve veered far off track, but it’s been fruitful. The original post explains the REAL topic. Here it is for the 2nd time. This establishes it. Mike wanted me to start this topic so he can do what he does. What I want is to find out is who the other six "the men of god" are. Johniam said a music coordinator told him victor was "The 7th THE Man of God." Who is this music coordinator and who are the other six "THE Men of God"? I'm happy to discuss determinism and the illusion of free will, as long a we get to the bottom of this T7TMOG thing. This goes to the heart of cult manipulation and cult leadership and what it means to be a cult.
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    Mmmmmph
  3. Nathan_Jr
    Oh, Irony. I see you. You don’t have to beg for attention, little girl. I know where you are. There, there. It’s ok. I know you’re restless. Let Daddy change out of his work clothes, then we’ll go for a walk. The religious corporation (kingdom) invented by victor paul wierwille, which is based upon his “writings” and “sermons,” is easily the most physically, psychologically, intellectually and spiritually oppressive force I have ever known.
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    Mike "The truths in PFAL are true no matter how rotten VPW's old man nature was." The countless errors in PFAL are demonstrably erroneous no matter what one beleeeves.
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    Doctrine is not fruit. Beleeef is not Truth.
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    It's beyond beleeef.
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    H. O. W.
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    “An ocean of doubt.” I don’t think that metaphor works for anyone here. No one is swimming in an ocean of doubt. The ocean is, perhaps, a better metaphor for Truth. Have you ever swam in the ocean? Ever swam out far enough from the beach that it gets a little spooky? Ever been out far enough on a fishing boat where shore is no longer visible, all alone? What did you find? Or, what found you? Fear? Peace? Awe? Wonder? Humility? Power? Grace? All of the above? None of the above? How immeasurably immense the ocean is! How indescribably immense! If I walk into the surf, scoop some water with my cupped hands, is that the ocean in my hands? Obviously not! Is Truth something to be possessed? Does it fit in a glove?
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    l You claim there's fruit in your life. Once again you use the abstract (like all that supposed good Saint Vic was supposed to do). How about some specifics? Considering you claim we have piddly replacements, I would assume you have oodles of examples of fruit in your life. Edited 30 minutes ago by So_crates To answer Mike's questions - 1. I don't think anyone expects anything of you. Reason wasn't involved when you fixed your beleeef in victor paul wierwille, reason won't get you out of it. This seems obvious, self-evident. 2. I'm not sure anyone is offering a replacement beleeef. I don't see any evangelizing or proselytizing here. I see a tremendously diverse bunch with at least one thing in common.
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    TRANSITIVE PROPERTY!!! (Not really a question. Sorry for yelling. Wasn’t sure if you could hear me.)
  11. Nathan_Jr
    How would you know? My daddy owns this bar. I decide what my daddy says. He has cookies. Hold on… I know they are around here somewhere…
  12. Nathan_Jr
    How (H-O-W) will the bartender know what to serve you unless you call the spirit by its name?
  13. Nathan_Jr
    How will I know your will, if I can't read your words? Simple math, baby. Take a break. Take a nap. Do it all while standing, of course. That way no one gets missed. See? Fresh salad is always being served. Just a tremendous kernel! Hey, I didn't write the book, so I know how you feel, and I can't do this alone. Some call it parallel. Some call it balanced. I call it a kaiser blade. SIMPLE!
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    Though that is objectively true, that's not what he's saying. Not REALLY. It's a more nuanced point. It's not about YOU. Not REALLY. That you won't or can't even understand what I'm saying, and that I am even attempting to explain it, well, that's REALLY what it's about. *Here's a a recent TIP for your cookie jar: To/for parallel to the ablative case vertically aligned to the vocative case. BOOM! No one gets missed.
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    Nothing wrong with setting boundaries. Cults and charlatans like victor paul wierwille do not respect boundaries. Boundaries are important. Sometimes, common ground is nowhere to be found. "Some men you just can't reach." (Thinking of someone else.)
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    Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there.
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    The 7th THE only begotten. (Ever see The Omen?)
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    Of course! Thanks.
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    I realized it had already been done. We could beat it up, again. After all, it’s just one of many necrotized infections on that rotting corpse floating in that filthy bathtub.
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    Again. I already said it’s not about replacing one nightmare for another. But, hey! …whatever.
  21. Nathan_Jr
    Ahhh.., the Schutzstaffel. Got it! Thanks, Chock. What does GB stand for?
  22. Nathan_Jr
    No one is offering a replacement. No one is suggesting swapping one conditioned, indoctrinated mind for another. If anything is on offer here, it is the opportunity to wake up
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    It’s not a baby. It’s a rotting corpse.
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    No one expects anything of you.
  25. Nathan_Jr
    Someone, please, explain WayGB.
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