Nathan_Jr

Mmmph

To my point with the broad survey of literature. This is what it means to have a liberal education in the classic sense of that term.

https://louisianasaveourschools.com/social-emotional-learning This is an organization in Louisiana fighting SEL. The link to the July 2019 article authored by CASEL researchers is a scary self indictment. It appears SEL is a Trojan horse for CRT and other "theories." Lot of fights over all this in the Louisiana legislature recently. Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead were required reading (as were the works of Kate Chopin, Maya Angelou, Zora Neale Hurston...) when I was in high school. I don't know if Ayn Rand will fit intro CASEL's agenda or values of collectivism.

A vast and cavernous network of rabbit holes. Haven't seen anyone reference Theosophy in many years. Rudolph Steiner was a a Theosophist... or broke away from them... (must renew my mind). He developed an agricultural practice called biodynamics... I used to have a connection to some of its practitioners. Weird stuff, but their results were undeniable, if debatable as to causation, correlation or coincidence.

Well, this.

3. 3!! WITAF? I'm reading Louisiana's site now. This will take a while. Lots and lots and lots of words saying very, very little -- like a sermon, class or book from victor paul wierwille. It seems CRT is explicitly baked in. I'll repeat: teaching a child he is born racist is as wickedly stupid and as spiritually irresponsible as teaching a child he is born a sinner or born in sin or whatever it is religious charlatans teach.

When he starts high school I'm sure we will get a full initiation. High school will be public and racially, ethnically, religiously, politically, economically diverse - precisely what I want him to experience. Right now he is in a very white, very affluent, very homogenous.... bubble. Unless accreditation requires demonstrable implementation of SEL, his middle school wouldn't bother.

My son goes to a private Baptist K-8. (Neither of us are Baptist.) We haven't experienced any of this... yet.

I would never. The bit is from a Denis Miller radio show. It satirizes the very issues raised in this thread. I'll find it and post it.

I'll take this as your own stylized way of showing me instead of telling me just how very f*cked all this is.

An issue was fabricated?

Wow. That's a real issue. Academics should be the priority. The very nature of school socializes children. Why do I need to even write those sentences?

Banning books because of hurt feelings? Where's the social and emotional learning in that? (Norm Macdonald had a brilliant bit on the solution to the hurt feelings caused by that book.)

Would a school district or state embracing SEL ban or teach Adventures of Huckleberry Finn?

So, no discussion? What a gyp. The materials from CASEL seem vague and innocuous, even common-sensical, but it seems critics see SEL as a way for schools to teach CRT and alphabet city. Not really sure there needs to be a program for this... not really sure what the program is. Teaching a child he is a born racist is as wickedly stupid and as spiritually irresponsible as teaching him he is a born sinner.

Go ahead. Get into the details. How are the kids getting brainwashed? (Asking for a dad whose son will be in public school in thirteen months.)

Not sure if it is discussed anywhere within these 44 exhausting pages, but it’s worth repeating. Victor’s “lost teaching” exhorts duped sycophants to master the written, scrubbed edition of PFAL and the collaterals - the foundational fundamentals. BUT the Advanced Class is conspicuously missing from the list of materials to be mastered. Could it be because the AC is a self indictment? VP teaches in the AC that cancer is devil spirit possession. Victor paul wierwille himself died of cancer, a devil spirit possession he did not know how (H-O-W) to cast out. He was unwilling to cast out any of his devil spirit possessions because he was unable - ability=willingness. If only he could have rightly beleeeved big enough…

I’ve been thinking about it for days. It seems to me only three types of people think/believe/act as if anything victor said or wrote matters: 1. The naive 2. The confused, delusional 3. The willfully ignorant

Yep and yep. Not even a chance it’s true. ABC…. Accuracy! Hey! I didn’t right the book.

If one expects victor paul wierwille, charlatan, to have a modicum of honesty the size of a glass eyeball glint, one might expect victor paul wierwille’s last teaching to be an exhortation to track down the guy who “taught” him the bastard Jew bar mitzvah story, since victor, in spite of his throughly renewed mind, just could not remember where he got it. Once Victor got it, he knew what to do with it. That’s riiiight! You’ve got to know what’s available and how (H-O-W) to get it. This is a class on how (H-O-W). Only then, Then, THEN will you know what (W-H-A-T) to do with it. Hey! I didn’t write the book.

Welcome, Rusty. Thank you for sharing your very familiar story — it is the legacy of victor paul wierwille, charlatan and destroyer. You are not alone. Apparently, there’s some fresh, full-strength coffee served in new, unused cups around here somewhere.

He wasn’t a real doctor and those weren’t real tools.

And, of course, four crucified, six denials, crowing cocks crowed differently in “Bible times,” boundaries of the mind, lesbian sex between Eve and a snake, Jesus was given a bastard bar mitzvah, and on and on and on…. Those and thousands of other claims and assertions are NOT backed up with Biblical textual evidence.

Mmmmph

Damn those facts to hell! Good for nothing time wasters facts are. If evidence and reason aren’t sandy enough, I’ve got to worry about those facts clogging up my beleeeving machine.