Nathan_Jr

Sure, these verses paint a strange, morbidly comical picture, but I didn’t realize these verses were so uncomfortable and controversial and such an issue. I am not entering a dog in this fight, but I am curious. Mark, what would happen if a proclaimed follower Jesus Christ did NOT do as you say they SHOULD do?

Mmmph

Thank you, WordWolf. Is it an acronym? Is it a gloss in someone's glossolalia? I found a thread where Trimm was promoting his own G'MIR - the apostrophe is his addition. it seems.

I think it was a feature in the Way Rag. Something to do with "research." Maybe. Idk. I didn't write the book.

Mmmph

A GMIR article was mentioned. What is GMIR?

Mmmph

"Give it a rest." Literally, "Give it a sit." The word "rest" should have been written "sit." It's just...so... ....accurate. mmmph

"You got that condescending Way Brain Condemnation working on overtime. Give it a rest." Well, which is it? Does one imitate victor paul wierwille, or not? Does one stand on the shoulders of T7TMOG, or not?

What did he mean by the Word?

Sometime the best way way to work odd verses is to just let them sit there. Like a duck.

Yikes! You are trying to crank logic WAY too early.

That flame of the whirling sword (literal) in Genesis was set to protect the Tree of Life after man was banished. But, I guess one could read into it that it protected the Tree of Life for later, thus protecting man... hey! A glove! That sword might have been more effectually protective of man had it been deployed earlier. It could have cut off Adam and Eve's hands right after they were formed/made/created to prevent them from... well, you know. But I guess that's just another example of God limiting himself.

I’m reading Daniel now, and it’s a lot of fun! That furnace scene always gives me goosebumps It seems to be a patchwork of at least two different authors or interpolators, but that’s just a hunch right now. Different gods, too! There are Yahweh, El Elyon, and others. I’m enjoying the NASB version right now. Just a quick first read before reading again for absorption. I’m surprised victor paul wierwille, charlatan, would want anyone reading this book. Lots in there for our learning that directly contradicts victor’s cookie recipes. His private interpretation of Romans 13 is effectually contradicted. At least two of his walking keys are throughly smashed: tongues are a prerequisite for revelation, and revelation received twice is revelation established.

"If our wants are light and our needs are heavy, we will never get an answer [from God]." -- Orange Book p. 19-21 Victor limited God right there where he wrote it. He meant what he wrote and he wrote what he meant. No logic. No scriptural proof text to back up his fantasy. Just... a cookie and a jar. Hey! I didn't write the book. Mike was taught fantastical theories are legitimate theories. You've got to MAKE it fit, especially when it doesn't. So, if one is unwilling to go beyond what one is taught, then, yeah, after 63 pages it will still be "WAY too early to crank logic."

Mmmph Only three, not five, pages. It’s all that’s available. Three, not five. Three short, exceedingly abundant, parallel pages. Just… …mmmph

Angels get no respect, but it was an angel who changed the course of history when Abraham needed to be steered from murdering his own precious son. God was in one of his devilish, evil moods, I guess, when he commanded such a wicked act of Abraham. Thank goodness that angel appeared in the nick of time. How would the rest of the story played out had he not?

The comment about God appearing like the devil made me think of this one: Gold Leaves Lo! I am come to autumn When all the leaves are gold; Grey hairs and golden leaves cry out The year and I am old. In youth I sought the prince of men, Captain in cosmic wars, Our Titan, even the weeds would show Defiant, to the stars. But now a great thing in the street Seems any human nod, Where shift in strange democracy The million masks of God. In youth I sought the golden flower Hidden in wood or wold, But I am come to autumn When all the leaves are gold.

I am reminded of a G. K. Chesterton poem…

Mmmph

“I was referring to how [YourWalk+ChristInYou+Bible+YourBelieving] says there are twice as many…”

I wonder how an infinite power can impose a limit on itself. Does infinite power have room for limits? Once a power limits itself, is it still infinite? Was it ever? Can infinite mind even conceive of limitations? Can a finite mind conceive of infinity? Who devised these gods?

Bless your heart. I wish you could read it in the original. mmmph

I came across this one while looking for another astonishingly errant "teaching." I couldn't get past minute 1:20. This is what I mean when I say the errors literally jump off the page and leap out of his mouth. One does not need to look for stupidity. It is self-evident, and you can't fix it - it is forevah. Hebrew verbs have a consonantal root or stem. Most verbs stems have three consonants, some have four. A radical is a consonantal root - a consonant. The three radicals in question are not the hardest. They are regular consonants. שָׁבַת The verb is transliterated shabath. Sound familiar? It means rest or cease or desist. It means stop working. I does NOT literally mean sat. Even victor's favorite FREE translation, The Amplified Bible, from which he copied abundantly for "Literal Translation According to Usage," does not get as imaginative and creative as he does here. Notice the histrionics. If he repeats "sat" enough times, people will ignore the error and just beleeeve it. Hey! I didn't write the book.

That evidence is not in the budget.