Nathan_Jr

Mmmmph

If the the subconscious is a fallacy, then habit patterns are fallacy. Just another withered hand ill-fitted to a bloody glove.

This is not a novel idea, as I suspect you know. It is not a cookie given to especially to victor for him to "teach." This is an ancient concept that did not originate with with first century Christians, and it is not not limited to the ancient Near East. I never thought I was unworthy and was never taught unworthiness until I took "the class."

I shouldn't, but I do wonder WITAF this means. I shouldn't, but I do, nonetheless, wonder what WTF he thinks subconscious and fallacy mean. RM? DWA? Wow. The ultimate irony.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Brinkley John Romulus Brinkley (later John Richard Brinkley; July 8, 1885 – May 26, 1942) was an American quack. He had no properly accredited education as a physician and bought his medical degree from a "diploma mill". Brinkley became known as the "goat-gland doctor"[2] after he achieved national fame, international notoriety and great wealth through the xenotransplantation of goattesticles into humans. Although initially Brinkley promoted this procedure as a means of curing male impotence, he later claimed that the technique was a virtual panacea for a wide range of male ailments. Brinkley operated clinics and hospitals in several states and was able to continue practicing medicine for almost two decades despite his techniques being thoroughly discredited by the broader medical community. —— Sounds familiar. The first sentence of victor paul wierwille’s wiki page should be so accurate. One day, God willing, er, God wording, it will be.

*Makes note: Chockfull is an athlete.

God is Spirit? Sounds like interpretative math. Sounds like you’re trying to make is mean something it’s not. A literal interpretation according to usage would be God is represented by spirit, or, accurately, God is associated with spirit. Bless your heart. I wish you could read it in the original.

I laugh out loud whenever I read GSC. There are some really funny emmeffers here. Where else could I read the pants-p¡ssing hilarity that is "God taught VPW."

It's all serious. It is all without exception or distinction to be taken seriously. All of it. Even the absurd is to be taken seriously, because that's what victor's made up "doctrine" is. Absurd. Illustrations of the absurd point to the truth behind the absurd. Linguistics matter. Language matters. Words and their meanings matter.

Don't confuse God's will with His budget.

The word "parents" here is often misinterpreted. The plural noun parents denotes the first person singular personal pronoun I. An honest, intelligent reading of victor's words would be, "I will be dead within five years."

Only Mike is misinterpreting the word “is.” Because he has to MAKE it fit.

The irony of the intellectually dishonest holding forth on intelligence and trustworthiness! Only someone saturated in the intellectual and spiritual dishonesty of victor and his PFAL collaterals would so widely miss the mark on understanding the English language.

Buuuuulllllsssshhhiiiittt!!!!!

"His Will declared by His Word." That's better. It is almost scientifically precise and mathematically exact. The word is not equivalent to the will, but the will is expressed, declared by the word. "We use "their word is their will" all the time with people. We apply this simple idea all the time to people, the idea that if they are smart and trustworthy, then their word is their will." I've never heard anyone use this phrase. Literally never. Of course, that doesn't mean one person never said it and a second never heard it. So, I'll concede two people use this phrase all the time. Someone's will is their intention, desire, want, plan, autonomous determination. (A command or decree could fit in there, too, I suppose, but maybe not -- seems a command is a declaration of a will.) An intention, plan, desire is expressed by through words spoken or written. The word ≠ the will. They are not the same. "The word of God is the will of God" is a bullsh¡t phrase.

How can you know if someone's words are trustworthy? Watch. Listen. Check. Test. Verify. Victor paul wierwille said, "Your parents will be dead within five years." Pay attention. (I don't hate victor. I pity him. If I hate anything, I would hate to be him on THAT day.)

God’s will is YOURwalk+YOURbeliving+TheBible+ChristInYOU. Simple math.

I never claimed to be a master of Israel or anything else. Oh.

I'm stealing this! Thank you for considering my questions. I'm still thinking about it all...

I can agree that the word is not that. HOWEVER, Words are useful when we want to convey meaning. Words are useful for understanding. Words are useful to persuade. You talk about "true repentance." What do you mean? Will you please use your words so I might understand?

A question I've been contemplating: Is obedience love? Mike and victor seem to want to equate obedience with love. But obedience is about respect and honor. Love is something else, is it not? Does love fear reprisal? Does love expect reward?

I thought the thread was started to explore love in general, what it means, what it is. The opening post cites secular, biblical, and cultic propositions. Inevitably, such a discussion will include philosophical, religious, humanistic, scientific, psychological, biblical... perspectives.

If I have to explain, the effectual power with impact will be lost. Someone here claimed that victor's ministry was not really about research. The claim is victor's was a verification ministry. But when one starts to verify what victor spoke and wrote, one finds out just how wrong he was about damn near everything. How wrong, you might ask? Dead wrong That's how.

Charity, I'm not saying you are wrong, but either you didn't absorb it fully the first time or you forgot. victor revealed rest and ceasing work are inaccurate translations of the most difficult radicals in the Hebrew language. According to victor, Sabbath is sitting, not ceasing. He should know. victor studied eighteen hours per day for forty years. If anyone knew Hebrew, victor did. If victor said it, it is settled. victor was the seventh THE man of god. Six came before him. victor put oil on the head of the one who came after him, the eighth THE man of god. Read that again. Oil. OIL!!!

I can leave my wallet at home and buy gas and groceries at Kroger and Whole Foods with my phone. Amazon started developing a cashless/cardless/scan-less grocery store a few years ago. No registers, no scanners, no payment processors. Walk in, load your cart, bag your own goods, walk out. Billing for everything is automatic through your Amazon account. They know what you got. They know where you are. They know who you are. Cameras are everywhere. Literally. Actually. Cash is difficult to track. Invisibility and anonymity are luxuries purchased with cash only.