Nathan_Jr

"Look at Miss Ohio," Soul Journey, Gillian Welch, 2003 (Pronounced with a hard 'G') https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_Welch

It was putting it all together, stripping screws, forcing it to fit, that was the original work. Well, that and how (H-O-W) he squatted over the mouth of God to take a dump. Pretty stupid, but pretty damn original! That’s a waterhead dandy!

This singer/songwriter won a Grammy in 2021 for best folk album, and she won a Grammy as producer for O Brother, Where Art Thou? in 2002.

Miranda Lambert covered it. If it made the mainstream "country" station, it got there by her. She's pretty popular, right?

Nope. Sorry. Since important works in Psychedelic Rock from 1969 and 1971 don't resonate, I'm switching gears here. Originally written and reordered in 2003, but is sounds much older than that, dare I say, timeless. Covered by many. Genre is Americana, though some would say Bluegrass. "Oh me oh my oh, look at Miss Ohio She's a-running around with her rag-top down She says I want to do right but not right now Gonna drive to Atlanta and live out this fantasy Running around with the rag-top down Yeah I want to do right but not right now Had your arm around her shoulder, a regimental soldier An' mamma starts pushing that wedding gown Yeah you want to do right but not right now Oh me oh my oh, would ya look at Miss Ohio She's a-runnin' around with the rag-top down She says I want to do right but not right now I know all about it, so you don't have to shout it I'm gonna straighten it out somehow Yeah I want to do right but not right now Oh me oh my oh, look at Miss Ohio She a-runnin' around with her rag-top down She says I want to do right , but not right now Oh I want to do right but not right now"

Should be easy to fry those brains on that PFAL bus.

You saw it, too? Yep. That along with the comment about insularity. TWI, PFAL and victor embody the quintessence of "intellectual inbreeding." ALTHOUGH, I'll admit "intellectual inbreeding" is a new phrasing for me - I love it and I'm stealing it! HOWEVER, it's not a new concept. It's a hallmark of all cults.

Whatever happened to the story of taking all his books (without exception or distinction) to the dump or the burn pit or whatever? I thought victor's ONLY source was his god and the post-first century Bible? Real question. Not a gotcha. Just trying to fit it all together. You know, like a hand...

Would you be surprised to know that some rise above the error in their PFAL and TWI to have great joy, abundance and power?

Yes. I'm well aware. This should be obvious to anyone who cares to find out. I like this topic. I have changed my positions on many beleefs, doctrines. Ideas, claims, assertions, and opinions throughout my life. One can't beleeve one's way to knowing. Beleeving involves clutching, clinging. Embracing the not-knowing, letting go, frees one to know anything at all. One must be WILLING to admit one is wrong or mistaken or deluded. There is great freedom and power in this openness to truth. So, has TWI changed and corrected their positions on four crucified and lama sabachthani in PFALT? These two corrections would be excellent baby steps into the light of a new dawn. I wonder if anyone can answer the question.

Did TWI ever change it's position on four crucified? I think I remember Charlene once writing she and others discovered through research that Llamsa's and victor's claim about "lama sabachthani" was inaccurate. Sound mind following the evidence wherever it would lead resulted in discarding the previous held erroneous position. Did TWI ever correct their position on this, according to the evidence?

No thanks.

That's not even a sufficient reason. Even the apostle Paul said don't EAT any where near victor. Don't even EAT near him! Which should point to how far away one needs to be on that day. I respect him as I would any other deeply flawed, stupid, carnal human being - with compassion and pity. I respect him as much as I would the rabid raccoon in the bayou behind my house.

In 2006, the magazine Christianity Today called it one of the 50 most important or influential books of the past fifty years. Yeah, she sounds interesting.

Ahh! Right! I remember now. Thanks, Skyrider. Do you have Rinker's book? If so, have you noticed any content plagiarized by vic?

Thanks, OldSkool. Do you have Rinker's book on prayer? Is she the one who "introduced" him to Bullinger?

Is Rosalind Rinker the one vic claims to have "introduced" him to Bullinger? (Coincidentally, he was already "teaching" like Bullinger wrote, but vic had never heard of him....riiight.) Does anyone have her book Prayer: Conversing with God? How much of this book did he plagiarize? Apparently, this has been a very important book among evangelicals since its publication in 1959. Wow. She didn't get tired until she was 95! Apparently, that's when she chose to stop believing.

...could make fit like a hand...

What else is God not able to do?

are debt-free or have financial obligations on hold or covered during the entire tenure of the program; If one's financial obligations are on hold, that means they haven't gone away. They remain in waiting to be handled later. Sounds like debt to me. This entire program will be financially devastating to the poor youth seduced into this trap.

Right! This has been discussed many times here. (The second time established it.) He might have known better, BUT like so much of his mouth vomit, it was all about manipulation, not about accuracy. Victor wanted to git money. Git that money, vic! God doesn't need nor want your money for anything. Giving money to a man made corporation set up by victor proves NOTHING to God or anyone, except that you got hooked like a fish. It can happen to anyone, because the thief is skilled. Having the awareness to see that it happened to you is real growth. No longer being deceived by such a hireling is real spiritual maturity.

This is a near perfect encapsulation of victor's lies and bull$hit and obfuscation and blame-shifting and guilt-tripping and fecal evacuation into the mouth of God. Hearing this paragraph of word salad hypnotically preached, one may miss all the nuanced error and manipulation. But to READ it... the seeded error just LEAPS off the page! Is tithing the LEAST a Christian could do?? Really? Is it? Is this written in the Bible? Or does one need to WORK the words of the Bible to make them fit this opinion? THEN the question very quickly shifts to the least a Christian MINISTER could do. It's all a straw man tactic to then condemn the other ministers as incorrect, while victor alone with one other is righteous. And THEN, again, he shifts to the poor me victim, so hurt and shocked that these other ministers wouldn't accept his carnal opinion. Look at how pious victor is! Never does he "work" the words of the Bible to prove his asserted claim. This paragraph is truly a textbook example of how (H-O-W) victor spews error and subtle, nuanced, serpentine deception and obfuscation.

Can anyone provide a link to the online repository or shared drive containing these SNS/SNT transcripts?

If your god won't give you revelation not to lose the hunting knife Eldo purchased for you last year, don't worry (beleevers don't worry), Eldo will bring you another one. Eldo is a good little fish. He doesn't even care if you remember where he works. It doesn't matter that you care about him. It only matters that he beleeves your bull$hit and gives you cash... and hunting knives that you can't seem to beleeve big enough for to keep up with. Bless your little hearts. I wish you could invent it... um, ha, ha..,. Oh, boy...READ it in the original. That's riiight.

Where does one find these SNS/SNT transcripts? Archive.org has all the recordings, so does YouTube, but I can't find the transcripts. It's easier for me to read them than to listen to that serpentine voice. And in reading them, without any effort, the factual, practical, doctrinal errors leap off the page. The contradictions. The logical fallacies. The bull$hit histrionics. The dark persuasion. Does an online repository for this bull$hit exist? **It truly breaks my heart that human beings are so gullible that they believe ANY of this bull$hit. At this point for me, it's all wretch and no vomit.