Nathan_Jr

Kinda like spiritual bestiality? Or spiritual child rape? If one is "spiritually mature" enough and beleeeeves big enough, one can do all the child and pig f*cking one wants, as long as it's locked in a box behind closed doors?

Do I need to search the advanced class transcripts much to find out? Is it like spiritual rape? Spiritual lying? Spiritual thievery? Adultery only matters if it's spiritual adultery? A little help, please..

I don't believe it's possible they ever recorded it. I'd be astonished and humbled and even confused to find out they did. Let's see if Word Wolf can get it right.

I'm sorry. I know I'm out of turn - I've read the rules. But as a Southerner, on principle, I'm compelled to interject. The submitted answer is not accurate.

Amway. Betsy DeVos was the U.S. Secretary of Education under Trump. Her father-in-law is Richard M. DeVos, founder of Amway, top of the pyramid. MLMs claim to be fundamentally about selling product, but their own members in particular end up being the only ones buying. There is usually a sign-up starter package that costs $$$ (Foundational Class). Then the pressure is on to sign up new members and sell product. If you can't sign or sell, too bad, you've got a quota to meet, so you better do something.... well, you end up buying the product yourself (advanced classes, collaterals, magazines, abs) to remain active in good standing. Painfully forced smiles on financially destroyed beleeevers in the fantasy all the way down.... sound familiar?

I depend on you for these types of obscure, yet glove-fittingly relevant, musical references.

This reminds me... My aunt and cousins were in Amway. They had a statement of beliefs or core principles that would resonate with any Christian: #1 God First. Sound familiar? Who would argue with this? Of course, God first!! What else?! But it is framed as some groundbreaking, revolutionary maxim. And a "business" that proclaims this, well, there just aren't enough cups for the koolaid in this country! Victor didn't just steal from other ministers and theologians. He didn't just steal from L. Ron Hubbard. He stole from MLM schemes like Amway.

TWI is fertile ground for MLM exploitation. As you point out, TWI is a form of MLM. There are so many parallels. An unsound, dull mind, a mind that hasn't been taught how (H-O-W) to inquire, how to learn, is ripe for religious and MLM cons. A naïve desire to beleeve self-referntial authorities is all that's required. Thank God this insanity need not persist.

One workaround might be to follow everyone active in the past 6 months or so. Literally everyone who has posted anything (new topic or reply). This will increase the probability of getting notifications on anything new.

I don't beleeve there is. Probability is very low. It would likely be a burden on the server. It's not impossible, but the setting would be controlled at the back end. I don't beleeve the user has this control. HOWEVER, you can set your login opening view to the path I illustrated, or you can bookmark this view in your browser, so whenever you open Greasespot you will see literally any and every new post whether you're logged in or not.

Here you go...

Perfect! Thank you, Skyrider!

I think you're right. Calling something spiritual or holy or enlightened, doesn't make it so. But that is all victor and Loy and the organization ever did. Naming. Labeling. Words... empty words. It's a curtain of verbiage.

This is exactly what it's about, nothing more, nothing less, nothing "spiritual." It should be recognizable to anyone working for any organization interested in developing its talent in order to achieve growth goals for the company. Human Resources 101. Thank you. This is the point. Right. There is NOTHING spiritual about any of those activities. To label them as spiritual doesn't make them so. Right. A goal of learning a new language, like Greek, can be measured and tracked. One can easily prove one's fluency. For example, one can be held accountable for progress in an academic setting by proving proficiency on tests. But how will one measure one's understanding of what God is? Who will hold one accountable for achieving this understanding, this "goal"? Is spiritual awareness something at all to be achieved? Who will say if and when you have achieved this "goal"? One must find out for one's self, alone, what spirit, spiritual, spirituality means. When one does, this idea of "spiritual goal" will become self-evidently silly. Spiritual matters just can't be handled this way. "Spiritual goal" is a non-starter, it's an oxymoron, it's a false proposition.

I'll offer an opinion, but I'd like to hear from Waysider, Skyrider, WordWolf, TBone, and Chockfull...if they can add.

I stumbled across this phrase while reading an old thread about overflowing abundance post-twi. A search yields exactly 16 results on these boards. Though one can infer from the context what this phrase might mean, there is no real expansive treatment, and "spiritual" seems misplaced -- it's confusing to a sound mind. I never went Corps, which may explain my ignorance. (I never went Sea Org, either.) Spiritual Goals: What does it mean? Is it exclusive to Corps? How are these goals measured and tracked? Does this go back to Loy? Victor? The Bible? Who coined this phrase?

When victor's god spoke audibly to him, was that revelation or something else? Is natural man speech from god different from revelation? Or is natural, audible speech from god a form of revelation? If it was revelation, and victor had not yet been carnally trained in the man-made mechanics of SIT, then SIT is not a prerequisite for revelation. If it was NOT revelation, and victor had not yet been carnally trained in the man-made mechanics of SIT, then SIT is not required to hear from god with your natural man five senses. ** An argument for the veracity of the 1942 promise is not what I'm after. The bullsh¡t of that story has already been revealed to me - the second time established it.

Naturally, after providing those links, this video popped up in my YouTube feed, because Google is Big Brother. Had to share. Kenji Lopez-Alt is a professional chef, cookbook and children's book author, NYT columnist and contributor to Serious Eats. Above all, he's an excellent teacher, unpretentious and down to earth. When it cools down in a few months, you might want to try the no-knead bread. Or not. This video might inspire you.

Bittman had a column for NYT years ago called The Minimalist. If you have an online subscription, you can access all his archived articles. (Much of it is on his website.) He also published several books you might be able to find at the library. AND he had a cooking show called The Minimalist - you might be able to find some episodes on YouTube. He was and still is a serious influence on how I cook and eat. Serious Eats can get pretty geeky with the science of cooking, which I like. Not just how (H-O-W), but why (W-H-Y).

I could and would stand for that!

From the very beginning of PFAL, I noticed these errors in logic or fact that he just steamrolled over, as if no one would notice - hoping no one would notice. During literally every segment of every session he made an erroneous assertion of fact or logic that jarred me, distracted me, bothered me. He repeated so many filler words and phrases in such a sing-song lullaby way, any uneducated or willfully ignorant mind would easily gloss over it. (Who would dispute self-referential authority on such esotericism?) The same for literally every recorded "teaching," including two AC recordings. If the bullsh¡t and error and pedagogical, brain-numbing cadence were scrubbed from PFAL, it would be less than five hours.

Ok. You can make it cheaper than you can buy it. Check out Bittman's method. Also, serious eats has lots of bread recipes https://www.seriouseats.com/search?q=Bread&offset=0 They are very good about explaining the how and why of technique and methodology. Do you still live in or near Mesa? Have you been to Proof? It's a bakery I've followed since they had a guerrilla operation in their garage. https://proofbread.com The real deal. 100% sourdough starter and locally milled grain for all their breads and pastry.

I don't, but I should. The modern classic no-knead bread recipe from Mark Bittman simply calls for a 50% whole wheat flour substitution when making whole wheat bread. https://markbittman.com/recipes-1/no-knead-bread Whats your question? What are you trying to do?

Is that what they say? It must be, because it sounds like so many other bullsh¡t assertions of opinion with twisted implications of axiomatic truth. WTAF! A subject is taught because the teacher respects it? That's the impetus for teaching? Respect for a manufactured opinion is why one teaches it? And they stand to respect the respectful??? Huh? It beaks my heart that people will just beleeeve anything. For example, I am a skilled cook. I respect the science and lore and craft of cookery. But I don't teach it because I respect it. If I'm asked to teach it, I would likely out of respect for the student, for that relationship, but ONLY if I felt apt to teach, which means skilled to teach. And being a skilled cook doesn't make me a skilled teacher of cooking. Just because a corporation is filled with robots who fetishize teaching, doesn't mean that any at all are apt to teach. Just because someone fetishizes a religious opinion, doesn't mean they have the skills to teach it. Wanting to teach is not a sufficient reason to teach. The best teachers are committed to being the best students - always learning.

As often as I laugh at the absurd piles of bullsh¡t revealed here, I find myself weeping with fists clenched in righteousness indignation and sorrow. With childish fantasies of revenge, I look around for victor and Loy to extract penance. But I can never find them, because they have been placed behind all of you at your feet -- this is where they have been commanded to go.