Nathan_Jr

Does this topic belong in Doctrinal or About the Way?

"Love, I get lost sometimes"

Money for Nothing, Dire Straits

I thought the Quaaludes made the screwing easier. Guess I just didn't fully absorb it in my mind the first time.

Ha! If you try too hard to MAKE it fit, you'll strip the head.

Close, but not quite. You may have been trying on the wrong gloves, T-Bone. You failed to absorb into your mind that the very LEAST a Christian can be expected to do is tithe. A Christian can't even crawl, much less walk, without tithing - at a minimum. This is foundational. This is the dawning light. SINE QUA NON.

uh-oh

What is the mission of GSC? Why do you put mission in quotes? What IS your intention, if not to subvert? I will submit to you, profitably, whether you intend to or not, you can not nor could you ever subvert the righteousness of GSC.

Jesus, the Nazarene is absent. Not Christ. Christ is not absent. This has been shown many times over - the second time established it. I've already corrected you on this, now, stand. Stand corrected. And stand corrected on the errant figures of speech teaching. Above all, stand. Stand corrected. These loving corrections are doctrinally profitable for you unto righteousness.

It’s gotten hilarious for me! I really do tickle myself sometimes. I haven’t laughed much in the last few years. But I do when I come to GSC.

If there’s no difference, what is there to argue. At this point, let RAF decide. if he decides twice, it’ll be established. Imagine that! A KEY to arbitration. Bless my heart. These bloody gloves don’t fit like they used to.

Only my correction of victor's errant teaching on figures of speech. You don't have to respond. It's not a challenge. It's not an argument. It's a correction. I corrected Victor, again. Like the absent Jesus was a correction.

Fair enough. Let it be moved.

Well, you were taught wrong. But that's ok. You don't have to cling to that teaching anymore. You can, indeed, go beyond what you were taught. It's not always about emphasis. Often it's about poetry. It's about illustration. It's about descriptive conveyance of meaning that a literal construction just can't convey. If chosing to use a figure of speech for emphasis causes confusion, then you should write plainly, say what you mean and mean what you say, otherwise, you risk emphasizing confusion.

Ha! I know! I was trying to quote him. Did I get it wrong? I always seems to screw up that phrase. Mathematically exact and scientifically precise?

Before we start talking about replacing things, let's get the usage accurate and precise so as not to cultivate any more confusion. Victor established this confusion, but right here right now, he is getting corrected. (Bless his little heart.) Figures of speech are usually used when the literal words just aren't enough. So, let's toss out the the inadequate phrase, coined by victor, that has caused so much confusion since the beginning. Don't say absent Christ when you mean absent Jesus, the Nazarene. The point is, mean what you say and say what you mean. The absent Nazarene, Jesus.

Right. Baby Jesus is absent. But the Christ is not absent. The Christ is within. The spiritual Christ. It's more accurate to say absent Jesus, present Christ.

You mean in the soup, right? In the soup. Not the mud.

So, really, a more accurate phrasing would be the "absent Jesus." Except that little kid. He had Jesus, the Nazarene, the physical man in him, according to victor.

Ok. To sum up. "Christ in you" is more mathematically exact and more scientifically precise when rendered as supplied literally according to usage as "the absent Christ in you." Except for that little kid. Victor said Jesus was in him, not Christ. That's the ONLY exception. That's grace, y'all. Just tremendous! We've learned that it is, indeed, true to fact, even when the gloves appear not to fit. Some are content to stay in the fifth grade forever and cling to that teaching - never going beyond it. Snow starts with the letter B. Murder has been legal in California since 1995. This summary trip - it's a real dandy! Thanks for starting this thread OldSkool! Just a tremendous kernel!

He was so cute! Baby's all grown up now.... and absent.

Got gloves? When it's a bright, sunshiny, cloudless day in October, you'd rather have them and not need them than need them and not have them.

How does this relate to the absent Christ?