Nathan_Jr

Sorry! I think I conflated this one with the one-liner game. You say the hill's too steep to climb, chiding You say you'd like to see me try climbing You pick the place and I'll choose the time And I'll climb the hill in my own way Just wait awhile for the right day And as I rise above the tree line and the clouds I look down, hear the sound of the things you said today Fearlessly, the idiot faced the crowd, smiling Merciless, the magistrate turns 'round, frowning And who's the fool who wears the crown? Go down in your own way And every day is the right day And as you rise above the fear lines in his brow You look down, hear the sound of the faces in the crowd Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

Let's assume victor got eye cancer from the lights while filming pfal, as claimed. 1. What's Avilable: A message from God in the form of a professional providing guidance for working with high-powered studio lights. 2. How to Receive it: Listen with meekness; discard willful ignorance. Discard ego. 3. What to do with it...: Follow the professional guidance step by step; heed all warnings and instructions; don't test God; thank those sent by God who are smarter than you. 4. Needs//Wants: You need your eyeballs to see, you need your organs to live. You want to see and you want to live. 5. Ability/Illingness: God is able to communicate in any form. He's obviously willing because he did. Lessons: Don't test God. Don't ignore God. He won't tell you a second time until you obey the first time. *"Results got resulted." Brilliant. I'm stealing that.

TRUTH. This can't be said enough. On that day, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near these people or the people who "taught" them. Bless their little black hearts - they have so much to unlearn.

Self-contradictory doctrines fit like a music coordinator's hand in a glove.

Thanks. So victor teaches both an absent and a present Christ? Or is it Christ is absent but the Lord is present? Does he "teach" a distinction? Hey. I didn't write the book. The way he made it all fit together, that's the original work. It's so simple.

So the leading by the teaching of the physical, formulaic mechanics of how (H-O-W) to say lo shunta la shonta, I presume? Wow that really is a greater work! Just a tremendous kernel!

That was probably "taught" to me as well - smells familiar. So, Jesus could only teach ABOUT the new birth, but he just didn't have the power to LEAD anyone to it? Only the Pharisee's Pharisee could do it? To be clear, the new birth wasn't available? Or the leading one to the new birth wasn't available?

I was "taught" the "greater works" is SIT -- Jesus was incapable of speaking SIT, because he didn't have holy spirit, even though he's the one who sent it. The implication of most of the "teachings" about Jesus is that "he was a just a bastard Jew and a sacrificial scapegoat... something had to be sacrificed like a sheep or goat, so it might as well be this bastard Jew - he may be glorified at the right hand of God, but he's dead.... to/for....now, have you read the epistles!?!?... just tremendous...mmmmph....MMMPH..."

Ok. You say the hill's too steep to climb, chiding You say you'd like to see me try climbing

Programming, conditioning, brainwashing is never obvious, apparent. It is subtle, coded. ....Keep them insular.

That day of finding out for certain has already come for many. It's available for any seeking to find. This seeing and knowing for certain is instantaneous for some and a long, arduous road for others. TWI has no place in the kingdom of God. If anything, it's place is to show what the kingdom of God is not.

Amen.

I know something about addiction and sobriety, too, OldSkool. I think your right about this. He rationalized so, so much. He probably had too many enablers to hit rock bottom. (Enablers for narcissists are called flying monkeys.) But rock bottom is different for everyone. If we are to believe the quotes attributed to him in POP, it looks like he was very close to rock bottom. What does the blue book say about the fate for those those unwilling or unable to get honest? Prison, insane asylum, or death. Victor got death.

I know what head shops are. We had one where I grew up. For a young teenager it was a mysterious and taboo and exciting place to shop for all the things you mentioned. And, yeah, I've picked up what victor was always putting down with his literal according to usage hipster vernacular, like "trip." EVERYTHING was a "trip" for vic as he desperately tried to relate to any hippy chick he could hope to manipulate. HOWEVER, I'm not yet convinced waterhead baby was his way of fronting a hipster slang. Like THOUSANDS of claims and assertions he made, he simply didn't know what he was talking about, so he invented it on the fly. "Waterhead baby" is a kind of slang for Fetal Hydrocephalus: "Hydrocephalus, or “water on the brain,” is a condition associated with a buildup of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) in or around the brain. If left untreated, this can lead to brain tissue stretching, significantly affecting your child’s growth and development." None of the scriptures he references point to drinking anything. He totally misses the mark here, as he does everywhere. I've gone down a rabbit hole researching Leviathan and all of its mythological and etymological origins. Have yet to come across the Ancient Egyptian story about the monster drinking the Nile dry. Hey, I didn't write the book. If you don't know the truth, just make it up. You don't need to be a bull to be a bull$hitter.

Yep. 1979 AC: page 20 of the syllabus; page 100-something in the transcript. (See attached.) According to vic's cookie jar fueled logic, Leviathan is both the sea monster AND the waterless place left behind after all the sea monster's drinking. HOWEVER, according to his 1971 AC, Leviathan is only a "water-head baby" with a swollen belly from all the water drinking. It's just that one sentence I quoted up thread. Just tremendous kernels of truth! Bless your little hearts.

Drambuie and Kools. One must work very hard to overcome such a disgusting combination. Bless his little heart.

Thanks, Waysider. I looked it up in the 1971 AC transcript and I read the chapter of Hosea. It's about apostasy and unfaithfulness to God. Got it. But a devil spirit? The word "spirit" is NOT in the text of Hosea 4:12 -- it's NOT in the original. Victor's deficient grasp of the Hebrew language is no excuse for his conjuring a devil spirit. BUT, BUT, BUT, I guess he can add whatever he wants to make it fit his imagination. Hey, I didn't write the book. Victor said it, I believe it, I guess I'm going over the cliff... While scanning the '71 AC transcript (occasionally stopping to vomit) I came across the spirit of leviathan. Almost choked! Laughing while vomiting is dangerous. "This is a real devilish spirit. 'Water-head babies,' people who get in the insatiable desire for water and can't get enough. They drink until their tummy moves out like a Buddha." Wow! Invaluable! I feel completely complete now. Fully equipped. My rifle is polished and loaded, ready for the fight. Just tremendous knowledge!

It's spiritual logic. It's axiomatic. I worked it out twice, now it's established.

Kinda like spiritual bestiality? Or spiritual child rape? If one is "spiritually mature" enough and beleeeeves big enough, one can do all the child and pig f*cking one wants, as long as it's locked in a box behind closed doors?

Do I need to search the advanced class transcripts much to find out? Is it like spiritual rape? Spiritual lying? Spiritual thievery? Adultery only matters if it's spiritual adultery? A little help, please..

I don't believe it's possible they ever recorded it. I'd be astonished and humbled and even confused to find out they did. Let's see if Word Wolf can get it right.

I'm sorry. I know I'm out of turn - I've read the rules. But as a Southerner, on principle, I'm compelled to interject. The submitted answer is not accurate.

Amway. Betsy DeVos was the U.S. Secretary of Education under Trump. Her father-in-law is Richard M. DeVos, founder of Amway, top of the pyramid. MLMs claim to be fundamentally about selling product, but their own members in particular end up being the only ones buying. There is usually a sign-up starter package that costs $$$ (Foundational Class). Then the pressure is on to sign up new members and sell product. If you can't sign or sell, too bad, you've got a quota to meet, so you better do something.... well, you end up buying the product yourself (advanced classes, collaterals, magazines, abs) to remain active in good standing. Painfully forced smiles on financially destroyed beleeevers in the fantasy all the way down.... sound familiar?

I depend on you for these types of obscure, yet glove-fittingly relevant, musical references.

This reminds me... My aunt and cousins were in Amway. They had a statement of beliefs or core principles that would resonate with any Christian: #1 God First. Sound familiar? Who would argue with this? Of course, God first!! What else?! But it is framed as some groundbreaking, revolutionary maxim. And a "business" that proclaims this, well, there just aren't enough cups for the koolaid in this country! Victor didn't just steal from other ministers and theologians. He didn't just steal from L. Ron Hubbard. He stole from MLM schemes like Amway.