Nathan_Jr

Thanks, OldSkool. Do you have Rinker's book on prayer? Is she the one who "introduced" him to Bullinger?

Is Rosalind Rinker the one vic claims to have "introduced" him to Bullinger? (Coincidentally, he was already "teaching" like Bullinger wrote, but vic had never heard of him....riiight.) Does anyone have her book Prayer: Conversing with God? How much of this book did he plagiarize? Apparently, this has been a very important book among evangelicals since its publication in 1959. Wow. She didn't get tired until she was 95! Apparently, that's when she chose to stop believing.

...could make fit like a hand...

What else is God not able to do?

are debt-free or have financial obligations on hold or covered during the entire tenure of the program; If one's financial obligations are on hold, that means they haven't gone away. They remain in waiting to be handled later. Sounds like debt to me. This entire program will be financially devastating to the poor youth seduced into this trap.

Right! This has been discussed many times here. (The second time established it.) He might have known better, BUT like so much of his mouth vomit, it was all about manipulation, not about accuracy. Victor wanted to git money. Git that money, vic! God doesn't need nor want your money for anything. Giving money to a man made corporation set up by victor proves NOTHING to God or anyone, except that you got hooked like a fish. It can happen to anyone, because the thief is skilled. Having the awareness to see that it happened to you is real growth. No longer being deceived by such a hireling is real spiritual maturity.

This is a near perfect encapsulation of victor's lies and bull$hit and obfuscation and blame-shifting and guilt-tripping and fecal evacuation into the mouth of God. Hearing this paragraph of word salad hypnotically preached, one may miss all the nuanced error and manipulation. But to READ it... the seeded error just LEAPS off the page! Is tithing the LEAST a Christian could do?? Really? Is it? Is this written in the Bible? Or does one need to WORK the words of the Bible to make them fit this opinion? THEN the question very quickly shifts to the least a Christian MINISTER could do. It's all a straw man tactic to then condemn the other ministers as incorrect, while victor alone with one other is righteous. And THEN, again, he shifts to the poor me victim, so hurt and shocked that these other ministers wouldn't accept his carnal opinion. Look at how pious victor is! Never does he "work" the words of the Bible to prove his asserted claim. This paragraph is truly a textbook example of how (H-O-W) victor spews error and subtle, nuanced, serpentine deception and obfuscation.

Can anyone provide a link to the online repository or shared drive containing these SNS/SNT transcripts?

If your god won't give you revelation not to lose the hunting knife Eldo purchased for you last year, don't worry (beleevers don't worry), Eldo will bring you another one. Eldo is a good little fish. He doesn't even care if you remember where he works. It doesn't matter that you care about him. It only matters that he beleeves your bull$hit and gives you cash... and hunting knives that you can't seem to beleeve big enough for to keep up with. Bless your little hearts. I wish you could invent it... um, ha, ha..,. Oh, boy...READ it in the original. That's riiight.

Where does one find these SNS/SNT transcripts? Archive.org has all the recordings, so does YouTube, but I can't find the transcripts. It's easier for me to read them than to listen to that serpentine voice. And in reading them, without any effort, the factual, practical, doctrinal errors leap off the page. The contradictions. The logical fallacies. The bull$hit histrionics. The dark persuasion. Does an online repository for this bull$hit exist? **It truly breaks my heart that human beings are so gullible that they believe ANY of this bull$hit. At this point for me, it's all wretch and no vomit.

Yep. You handled that quote with matchless accuracy. Isn't that just wonderful! Just a tremendous kernel. But ol' Eli wasn't accurate about everything. Also attributed to him: Worry and anxiety are the sand in the machinery of life; faith is the oil. Literally, according to usage, "faith" here should be rendered beleeeving. Haha! Oh, boy! Isn't that somethin'!

Like waterhead babies. Like Jesus's bastard bar mitzvah. Like four crucified.... and hundreds more. You just can't make this up... oh, wait...

I just don't think I'm good at this game. Trying to play to y'all's wheelhouse. And the radio air play rule will get me every time. I'm walking that tight rope between stupidly obvious and esoteric obscurity. My inclination will always be towards the latter, I suppose. "Dreams", The Allman Brothers Band, The Allman Brithers Band, 1969

"Just one more mornin' I had to wake up with the blues Pulled myself out of bed, yeah Put on my walkin' shoes And went up on the mountain To see what I could see The whole world was fallin', right down in front of me 'Cause I've a hunger for the dreams I'll never see, yeah, baby Ah, help me baby, or this will surely be the end of me, yeah Pull myself together Put on a new face Climb down off the hilltop, baby Get back in the race 'Cause I've a hunger for dreams I'll never see, yeah, babe Lord, help me baby, or, this will surely be the end of me, yeah" **I have no idea if this ever received commercial radio air play. Before my time. But I sure do love this era.

"Just one more mornin' I had to wake up with the blues Pulled myself outta bed, yeah Put on my walkin' shoes Went up on the mountain To see what I could see The whole world was fallin' Right down in front of me"

Indeed, victor uses the cunning, deceptive tactics of implication, insinuation, and suggestion. But just in case you missed it, he spells it out explicitly for you in the last session: He, alone, is THE teacher. "This is why, if at any time -- if at any time I can be of help to you, if I can help you or any of our people can help you, if this is true, and we can be of service to you, I'd like for you to write to me, just write: THE TEACHER, New Knoxville, Ohio, 45871. Just write to me. Anytime it's addressed to "The Teacher," it always comes to me, personally. You just write to me if we can be any help to you in understanding it and helping you with the greatness of God's Word or in any other way, whereby we can help you."

It's definitely Syriac, aka Syriac Aramaic. I recognize some of the alphabet, though I'm not sure what it says. Anyone know? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_language No corporation interested in growth and in achieving goals, spiritual or carnal, can operate effectually this way. This is willful ignorance and a clear sign of spiritual immaturity. Not since the mid-20th century and victor paul wierwille has anyone so enthusiastically squatted over the mouth of God to take a dump. Just tremendous kernels of truth. Bless your little hearts in the original.

That video is so cringe. He said the only feedback ever given and considered was from the first ten kids from the fist wow summer. This alone provided the blueprint for all future wow. Do they really beleeeve that's enough? Was feedback/criticism of the program by subsequent participants ever encouraged and accepted by "leadership"? Is there an applause prompter in the studio? It's so painstakingly scripted. He just can't stop, won't stop, reading from the script in his hand. Is that Syriac on the seal on the podium?

Good. Now, I have asked you some questions. Relevant questions. Politely. Care to answer?

I think it's not only important to find out what he said and wrote, but what he meant. This is how one puts it together so it fits like a hand in a glove - this is the original work. I have posted screen shots of advanced class transcripts. It's always astonishingly revelatory. I wish I had a transcript of pfal. Do you have a transcript? Would you please post a screen shot of this phrase?

I did. I sure did. Thanks. Why do you suppose he he included this specific time frame? Why not two weeks? Or four months? Or the next 72 hours? Why three months?

...is the most important and sinister clause here, whether epistles or collaterals. I seem to remember you writing this, Mike, about the collaterals, etc. You may be technically correct, but I also remember victor grumbling: read nothing but or exclusively or only the epistles/collaterals/pfal.

Though this song is regarded by many as the best song on the record and covered by many bands still to this day, it may not have ever received air time in the U.S. (I didn't consider this rule carefully enough.) "Fearless", Meddle, Pink Floyd

I suspected that was your sweet spot. I'm in my mid-40s. I"m a fan of your sweet spot. The record came out in 1971.

Hint: Originally written, composed and recorded by this British band on their 6th album.