Nathan_Jr

Thanks, Charlene. I was going to ask what not a real doctor said about the Jonestown Massacre, but did a quick search instead. WordWolf nicely compiled the memories of how victor handled it here:

When Bullinger, Lamsa (T6TMOG) and wierwille (T7TMOG) changed and twisted the text to solve an imagined problem, they created more problems by their so-called solution. More contradictions and errors necessarily arise when claiming inerrancy than when letting Mark be Mark, Matthew be Matthew, John be John...

If not spared from, spared for. Either way, it was Ya (fka El) who did the reserving. It was Ya's purpose. Ya is more just and moral beyond all understanding, right? How can the crucifixion be unjust if it was Ya's purpose? And did Jesus overcome this justified crucifixion? Or was it Yahweh who raised him? There's probably a glove for this.

But wasn't the crucifixion the reason why he was spared all the prior deaths by stoning?

Invoking names of political charlatans to illustrate a higher point, or even referring to events as short hand for political charlatans as a way to make a non-political point, can only grease the slide. Slippery slopes are lubed by the best intentions. Let it go. It's done.

What was the greatest injustice of all that Jesus amazingly overcame?

If you claim to be morally superior and have the power to prevent a wicked act like child rape, but you allow it to happen, are you morally superior? If you have the power to permit something, then you have the power to prevent it. To permit wickedness when you have the power to prevent it is, well, wickedness itself

This god as described can't be both more moral and amoral simultaneously. To borrow a phrase from that charlatan: it's a glove that doesn't fit. Either this god is perfectly moral or all powerful. Can't be both.

Wow. I saw the politics and winced in anticipation of moderation. After my last coaching, I studied to make myself approved, a greaser unashamed, accurately avoiding politics while handling Lamsa's bullshonta translation with parody and satire by typing with my thumbs and believing in my heart, "mmmmph." I suppose I didn't study hard enough - in the Elizabethan sense, that is.

Indeed. It’s one of his charismata. It was freely given to him, so he freely gives to us.

It’s gaslights all the way down.

One of my favorite "keys" is the green light key. Don't do anything until you get the green light from daddy. Especially, don't cast out any devil spirits until you get the green light. How convenient! The reason why no one ever, EVER, cast out a devil spirit is because no one ever got the green light. What a cop out! What wicked, spiritual weakness this is. This kind of spiritual stupidity is taught by hucksters. This is a class on how. H. O. W. mmmph

The empty cookie jar tracks with victor's convenient cop out for his inability to cast out devil spirits. A great way to teach others how to cop out. After all, the bullshonta promise of 1942 was contingent upon teaching the bullshonta to others. But I wonder if this excuse would suffice if one were late to a meeting or (Gasp!) late to a "class." Dupe: Sorry I'm late.There was a massive wreck on I-20. The interstate was a 5mph parking lot. Deciever: You should have received revelation to take an alternate route. Are you not beleeving to have your steps ordered by his word? Dupe: Daddy's cookie jar was empty.

I don't know if they accept the science or not, but I suspect it doesn't matter to them either way because of the new earth. If anything, I could see them pointing to climate change as evidence of the coming eschaton. My fellowship ridiculed me for recycling because of the point above. My city no longer has a municipal recycling program because of ineptitude and corruption. Thankfully, a private upstart founded and operated by some young enterprising Christians has closed the void. Great guys doing great work. I wish I could afford to continue with their service, but it has gotten too expensive. On their cans and trucks is Psalm 24:1 (NIV) "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it." Pretty cool.

Mike once argued it’s not arrogance if you can do it. He thought he might be quoting Babe Ruth who said something like, “If I can jump over a barn, is it bragging to say I can?” No. It’s not bragging. But you can’t jump over a barn! (Or control the weather.) Weather was all devil spirits with this fellowship. We have awesome thunderstorms here in the Deep South. Really powerful, electric, beautifully terrifying events. Always caused by devil spirits. The devil controlled the weather, unless it was a crisp, blue sky, sunshine daydream, then, I guess, it was the day the lord hath made.