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You've missed the whole point.

This might help: Analogy

Not talking about pushing or pulling people. The Bible has the doctrine. Chaos and order are physical phenomena. I learned the concept in Physics 101.

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The language of 1 Cor 12 definitely makes a distinction between gifts and manifestations. We should also. Otherwise we are saying God's opinion doesn't matter. That won't go anywhere. Although some say manifestations, the Bible uses the singular. 1Cor 12:7: But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. That first word, but, sets the manifestation apart from the gifts in the first part of the chapter.

The question remains, did Jesus do 7 of the 9 things in 1 Cor or not? Furthermore, did he or did he not say they would also do those things? I'm not talking about the greater works. Was God OCD for enumerating 9 ways the spirit manifests?

I don't know what else to do with DWBH's replies. It doesn't seem like he's being very serious, so I just reply in kind and have a little fun.

I see what's going on here. 1) You are convinced I am a wayfer, a wafer of the wafers, in fact. 2) I leave the intellectually superior "Way" section and came to the basement. 3) You followed me to the basement. How humiliating that must have been for you. Why would you have done that? 4) The only conclusion is: you must be a closet Wafer that needs to read all the way doctrine I write. You can't get enough. Why not just go back to Ohio and sit at the feet of queen riverbark and let her tickle your ears with her doctrine? That's clearly what you want. I know it now. You are a phony. You don't belong here at gsc. Sorry to out you dude, but you'll feel better as time goes on. You'll finally be able to express the true wafer you. The closet is a dark place.

True enough. In our society the civil trumps the lay. I was asking a hypothetical question. Yes, a hypothetical question, by nature, is moot. Nevertheless, people engage in hypothetical questions all the time. It stimulates thought and conversation.

All your points well said. I painted everything with a pretty broad brush. Thanks for the clarifications. Can't imagine how I mistook 1 Sam 1 for 2 Sam 11 (point A). With regards to F: All true. But I was more wondering what individual Christians would have done. Of course today, David would be tried and probably convicted apart from any religious connections. In our society the civil trumps the lay. It's just a hypothetical question. Maybe a better question would have been, What would you have done to a man like David? Or how about Christian killer Saul? Me? I doubt I would have been anywhere near as gracious as God.

I did forget about the humour. The best part. Thanks...

It's not important.

In Latin it would be: "vos guys." Got it now?

Barf...

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It's funny how you and certain others followed me here. I thought the basement was pretty low. I guess you just don't want to miss any of my knowledge. That's cool. Stick around. I'll teach you a few things.

You guys so invite it. Have you not noticed that I reply according to people's reply to me? I am perfectly able and willing to discus things like adults. But if people want to act like children with snarky and cryptic replies, I'm very good at that also (even though it's waste of time). Like I said, in wit and doctrine, I have no equals here at gsc. Stop messing around and stay on topic.

God hand picked David to be king over Israel. He was the top leader over all of Israel (1 Samuel 1). He used that position to commit murder in the first degree. He had Bath-sheba’s husband, Uriah, killed so he could have Bath-sheba all to himself. That is outlined in 2 Samuel chapter 11. A law school could use this chapter as an example of murder in the first degree. Conspiracy also and probably a few other niceties. God wasn’t happy about David’s behaviour (2 Sam 11:27) so he had a talk with him. He told David that things wouldn’t be going very well for him and Israel from now on. But David immediately repented and so God completely forgave him (2 Sam 12). In fact, David ended up in the Hebrew’s chapter 11 “believers hall of fame” (Heb 11:32). So the top leader of all Israel murders an innocent man. David repented. God forgave him. The question: what would present day Christendom do to a man like David?

I see V and P. LMAO.

The scriptures also say it. Check out the words, "administration" and "dispensation" in a concordance. I'll help get you started in your own research so you don't have to rely on my, vp, or gsc (get the rhyme there? ) for the answer: Eph 2:1-7, 1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. In those verses your have in time past (v2), present (v6) and the future (v7). They are quite distinct from each other. If you go from there, you will see that they all represent very different ways God deals with man in the different times. Did the death and resurrection of Jesus change anything? I would say a major affirmative on that. Different times, different "rules."

Easy there, my friend. I'm not into fetishes!

Yes. Bullinger, Daraby and others see it that way also. Either could explain it to you better than I. Check 'em out.

Clearly I am superior to the typical gsc cult follower, both in wit and scriptural knowledge. You guys should all humble yourselves, join my flock, and let me teach you the real interpretation of the Bible.

Chronology, by nature is compartmentalized. Now is now, then is then, and what will be is what will be.

Maybe 2 Cor 4:4 explains why you can't see it. I hope that's not the case for your sake, but it looks like that may very well be your problem. But not to worry, with God all things are possible and the scales may fall from your eyes yet. I'm clearly superior to the the typical gsc cult follower, both in wit and scriptural knowledge. You guys should humble yourselves and learn from me.