Grace Valerie Claire
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Way, I wonder if he ever told the truth?
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The Gauntlet of Classes and Indoctrination
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Twinky. and cars, and motorcycles. And then of course some of the Ladies on Staff, would need to spend a lot of money on their weekly shopping trips to the local towns near NK. Every week I sent in my ABS to HQ. Even, if I needed it more than them. -
The Gauntlet of Classes and Indoctrination
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Frank, that is how I feel. So many were so hurt, who knows if they will ever recover? -
The Gauntlet of Classes and Indoctrination
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Sky, I remember him! Nice guy, helped a lot of people. -
The Gauntlet of Classes and Indoctrination
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Sky, you are so right!! I know a lot of people tried to talk to me about going Corps. I am so glad I didn't listen. I remember when I was in college, I was a full-time student, and worked two jobs. Our area leader, who had never been to college, used to tell us we should put The Ministry ahead of our college studies. That used to p--s me off; I used to think I'll do that when TWI gives me some money for my studies. What an azzhole he was! -
He did??
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DWBH, again thanks for another great post. For years, and years, I thought kids growing up in Way World had an easy life. Then I started reading here at the 'Spot, how badly so many of them were treated by adults in Way World. God, so many of them were neglected by their parents, because the parents were always working for TWI. One woman in the FC, was told not to give her son medication for his ADD. Another woman said that her parents were told to abandon her brother because he had problems. Hell, I probably would of had problems if I had grown up in Way World. I was shocked by the number of kids were were abused. And then, so many of them were left without adult supervision for long periods of time; so I was but I lived on a farm and, and worked a lot. God, how could I have been so wrong about so many kids at Way World.
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OS, I will never in this lifetime understand why you, your family, and others were treated so shabbily by TWI. It seems to me that most of you wanted to live a Christian lifestyle, and serve God. So many of you were used, and exploited by leadership. I was in the Navy for five years, and quite frankly, I think the Navy treated me better, than the way many were treated by TWI. I hated the Navy, and couldn't wait to get out. But it seems to me, that TWI treated many of its staff members like dung, and paid them peanuts. I would have left quickly, if this had happened to me. But, I am not married, and don't have kids. It was easy for me to walk; it would have been much harder with a family.
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Yes OS, you got it!! 43 is young to me; I graduated from HS in 1975. I think some of the best years of my life are ahead of me. It is indeed wonderful to be out of TWI. I read people's stories here at the Greasespot, and I am shocked at the hell that some people went through with TWI. Not just them, but also what their families went through. I think most of us wanted to serve God as best we could, yet many of us were used, and abused. I read recently that LCM was teaching again in Ohio. Teaching what, I have no idea.
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Hey Bol, as usual, it is good to read one of your posts. I have never met Rosie, nor have I ever heard her teach. However, almost always when someone mentions, Rosie, they usually mention that she is a B---h. Some people have good things to say about VPW, LCM, Chris G, and even Donna. However, in all the years, I have been reading the GSC, I don't think I have read one nice thing said about Rosie, ever. I often wonder how someone like that makes it to the top of Way World. I have never run a company, or business. However, if I had, I think it would be very important for me to hire honest people who can deal with others in a professional manner. Especially if I was running a Christian organization; I would want people on the top tier to lead by example. Simply from reading the GSC, I get the impression that Rosie is dishonest, and hard to work for. She seems to me to be an unhappy person, who enjoys making those around her miserable. Again, these are my opinions based on my readings from the GSC about her. If she didn't have the TWI, what would she do with herself??
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OS, I didn't realize you were so young!! I'm 60, so to me, anyone under 50, is young. I heard VPW teach live several times; I thought he was boring as hell. I know some would disagree with me, but that is my opinion. I think Honey, you are starting to grow up, and I don't mean that in a condensing way. I think you, like many of us here, gave your youth to a cult. I got involved in 1978, and exited in 1988. I had no idea of all the garbage that went on behind the scenes, in Way World until I came to the GSC a few years ago. I thank God that you got out of that damn cult. One thing I am learning is to make my life count. I help people as much as I can with my limited resources. I treat people the way that I want to be treated. For me, life has gotten so much better since I left TWI.
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Timeline 2000 - 2016: The Crotchaven Years
Grace Valerie Claire replied to chockfull's topic in About The Way
Wow, that explains a lot of things I didn't know. I didn't know Donna, and Rosie had been "friends' for so many years. Also, that explains how Rosie moved up so quickly regarding the Way Tree. I didn't know she never ran a class. Nor did I know that she was never a TC, Region, etc, leader. I have never heard her teach. I did hear Donna teach a few times tough; she was a very good teacher. I am glad that I left TWI back in the 80's. I don't think I would have done well with Rosie in charge. -
The Way of A Bunny Dance and Powder
Grace Valerie Claire replied to chockfull's topic in About The Way
Thanks! Obviously, I haven't missed anything by not taking the class! -
Thank you Penworks! I also post a lot on the GSC; it keeps me from shoveling food into my mouth all day. I don't hate anyone; there are people that I dislike, but I don't hate anyone from any off-shoot. I'm sure that many people dislike me, but I can't think of anyone who hates me. Hate, and dislike are two very different concepts.
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Confused, bingo!!! Now, you are starting to understand!! I am only speaking for myself, but I have been a Christian for over 40 years now, and still know very little about God. Your views on the Absolute Truth may vary over time; I know mine have. Keep searching, and keep digging, but don't kill yourself about God. The greatest cargoes(sp?) in life come in over quite seas. Ask Him, and He will give you answers.
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Steve, it is always a pleasure to read your posts. I pray that you regain your health. I had no idea he was into quack medicine. I know I had a bout with Cancer 13 years ago, and it wasn't a day at the beach. The DC VA Hospital took very good care of me, otherwise I would not be writing this post. I remember John years ago; he used to be very funny and sharp. What made him change for the worse, is a mystery to me. Now days from what I know about him, which admittedly is not much, he seems to be interested in money. And that's all.
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DWBH, this is not a snide remark, but it is my opinion. I remember years ago,1979(?) when John and Pat Lynn were the Limb Leaders of New York. I used to love hearing them teach; both of them were great teachers. They were funny, and very sharp people!! I don't know why, or what happened to John, but he changed a great deal. I used to love hearing him teach; now days I don't. At one time, John used to be a true blessing for others; now days he seems to be interested in money more than blessing others.
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Raf, great post! I always thought the classes were to keep people coming through the door, so they would cough up their ABS money. I thought the classes were boring as s--t, but I had to have certain ones for the AC. Speaking of which, I thought the AC was the most boring class of them all. A complete waste of my time and money.