Grace Valerie Claire
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Turning Points - What Got You Involved and Committed?
Grace Valerie Claire replied to JavaJane's topic in About The Way
Raf, I love reading your posts! I wish you would post more often! -
Turning Points - What Got You Involved and Committed?
Grace Valerie Claire replied to JavaJane's topic in About The Way
Raf, I really believe God lead me to TWI. I got in during Wintertime of 1978. My first Twig was great; we were young, we had fun together, and fellowship was exciting. I loved hearing The Word; finally I knew that God loved me. I had a very harsh, and unhappy childhood, and felt unloved. To know that Almighty God loved me, was breathtaking!! However, within a few years, TWI had changed; there was a lot of pressure for PFAL classes to run. The Word hadn't changed, but TWI had; it was all about money, and how many classes your Twig ran. And when Geer's paper came out in 1986, I knew I was going to leave; it was just a matter of time. So I left in May of 1988, and no one gave me any grief about it. I left, and knew that TWI, and I had parted company for good. -
Turning Points - What Got You Involved and Committed?
Grace Valerie Claire replied to JavaJane's topic in About The Way
Allan, I will never regret my involvement with TWI, because it lead me to God. I left in 1988, and it seemed to me, TWI was going downhill quickly. From reading various posts here at the GSC, TWI went from crazy to catastrophic. -
Turning Points - What Got You Involved and Committed?
Grace Valerie Claire replied to JavaJane's topic in About The Way
Allan, yes!! God got me in also. I loved the music, and I really enjoyed many of the people I met in TWI. However, when it was time to leave, God got me out. As bad as TWI was/is, I am thankful that it lead me to God. -
Allan, bingo!!! So did mine! Looking back, I wish I had left TWI years before I did. But, I thought if I stayed, I would see things improve in Way World. After I left, things continued to get worse for TWI; however my life got much better.
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Steve, excellent post!! However, I just wanted to add my two cents; I heard VPW teach live several times. I thought he was boring, boring, boring! Just my opinion; I know a lot of people will disagree with me.
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Way, yes TWI did ruin lives; I wonder how many those whose lives were ruined will ever recover??
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Second Open Letter to Jean-Yves DeLisle
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Twinky, I too would like to know if Sky receives a response. -
Second Open Letter to Jean-Yves DeLisle
Grace Valerie Claire replied to skyrider's topic in About The Way
Sky, what a great letter!! You rock!! -
Steve, the staff, and students are allowed to disagree with each other??!! Obviously, most of them were not involved in TWI; if you disagreed with leadership, you were sharply reproved for voicing your opinions.
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Chock, honey you are so right; TWI did prey on young people who lacked critical thinking skills. My thinking skills, and my lack of self-esteem, made me an easy mark for VPW, and company. In college, I started to develop my critical thinking-skills, and realised a lot of what TWI taught was garbage, and started to live my life for myself; that did not go over well with the local leadership. Now I understand why TWI didn't want people to go on for higher education; they wanted people to think in terms of what was best for The Ministry, not was best for the individual.
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DWBH, wow!! The things I learn from the GSC; thanks for all the information. Now, I am beginning to understand why I got involved in TWI, and why I was happy to get out of it!
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GM, you nailed it! The GSC has opened my eyes to a lot of S--t that went on in Way World, that I did not know about!
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T-Bone, you rock!!!
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George, good for you!! I probably would have done the same as you.
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Krys, interesting post! I think a lot of people tried to tell others how to run their lives; I hated that! I know as a woman, I was expected to get married, and have kids. Nuts! I got my degree, and than joined the Navy. I wanted to travel, and do something with my life. So many people in TWI wanted to know when I planned on getting married; the answer was/is " when the right man comes along. " I felt a lot of pressure to get married; many women married the first man who asked them. I am so happy that I didn't do that; I may never get married. But, I am fine with that. I am happy being single; life is good!
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George, neither did I. But, I feel like some of the leadership looked down on me, because I didn't "sell-out" completely to TWI. I had a life, and I wanted to live it my way; I felt that many of the leaders in TWI had certain expectations as to how "believers" were supposed to live their lives; I did not fall into that category. Nuts to them!
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WG, well-said, and thank you! I did not know that Cancer was "over 600 diseases." I think VPW wanted easy answers to complex medical questions; I think that was why he said it was a DS. Hogwash!! I would not wish Cancer on anyone, but it can be successfully treated, if it is caught in time. I know from personal experience!
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Penworks, interesting post. I think many of us paid a "high price" for our involvement in TWI; some perhaps more than others. I think I was fortune in that I left unscarred; I know some of the women, and children, were brutally abused by others members of the cult. If I could turn time backwards, I would love to have VPW, and others pay for their crimes; I know that isn't possible so I will have to let go, and let God deal with them.
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Tzaia, what a polite way of saying that VBW was full of caca!
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Way, you did an excellent job of describing Boot Camp!!
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DWBH, I think of all the posts I have ever read here at the GSC, your's may be the best one I have ever read. Thanks for posting this; I need to read it a few more times to really absorb it.
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Rocky, I love your posts; you seem to have your feet on the ground, and your head on straight. Just my two cents!
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Bol, I think many people who get involved in cults are looking for love, and acceptance. I know I was; my family life sucked when I was a kid. When I got involved in TWI in 1978, I felt loved, and accepted for the first time in my life. What a glorious feeling it was! Perhaps if I had grown up in a loving, and kind family, I would never have felt the need to join TWI.
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Way, that is a great question. I wish I had a great answer for you. If I had known about VPW's wantonness, I would never have gotten involved with TWI. However, I did meet some wonderful people in TWI, and I truly enjoyed most of The Rocks, I attended.