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Long, where will JYDL go, now that he is out of TWI?

Sky, wow!! I didn't know this. Thanks for the information.

Way, I didn't know that could live that long, or do as much damage as RR has done.

Sky, do they really want to? It seems to me, if they wanted to pull their heads out of the sand, they would have done so years ago.

T-Bone, excellent post. Thanks for the information.

T-Bone, I took the AC in Rome City back in 1985. I remember the food being quite good. I certainly had no complaints about it.

Twinky, you make me laugh!! I know I "rejoice ", everyday because I left TWI years ago.

Sky, I first got involved with TWI over 40 years ago. All the points you mentioned, happened to thousands of us, decades ago. Same Bulls--t, just a different day. I feel for those people who will work for TWI, at minimum pay. I officially retired in January, of 2020. Those monthly SS Checks, combined with my VA Stipend, are wonderful. For the first time in my life, I am financially stable. I fear those people who depend on TWI for a living, will have a hard time after they retire.

Beguiled, thank you for your post. I am sure, it wasn't easy to write. I am old enough to be your mother. I had a very unhappy childhood, and blamed my mother for a lot of the terrible S--t, that happened to me. Much of this S--t happened over 50 years ago. I have had many therapists over the years; some were good, some weren't. However, the therapist I have now is by far, the best one I have ever had. I have had him for over a year, and the VA is paying him for another year of therapy for me. Also, I have a wonderful Doctor who monitors my meds for me. In my experience, therapy and medication has been a huge help in overcoming the anger I had at my mother, and other family members. I wish you well on your journey to health, and happiness.

Rocky, I remember that picture very well. I went WOW, in 1978 in Illinois. What a horrible year! We were under a lot of pressure to run classes. I remember having very little money, and not having enough to eat. I think we helped to run three, or four classes during the year. I stayed for the entire year, but it was very difficult for me to do so. Toward the end of the year, I told my Branch Leader, I was going back home to attend college. Boy, was he upset with me!! When, my year ended, I went back, and attended college. I have never felt the need to go back to Illinois. In some ways my WOW was successful, because I stayed the entire year, and did sign up people for the class. However, I look back on it, and know I would never do it again. In so many ways, I feel like I wasted a year of my life going out WOW.

Socks, I remember JN; they were wonderful!! Their music was so inspiring, and Godly. I heard them several times, and always thought their music was amazing. I have wonderful memories of them. Many of the head honchos in TWI, were guilty of any number of wrongdoings, but JN was the "real deal."

Sky, do you know how much money these classes cost? I paid 500.00 dollars back in 1985 for the AC I took in Rome City. After, the class ended, I wanted my money back. Too little Word; too much BS.

Sky, I remember the Rocks of 1978, and 1979. You are so right; a lot of people sang, and they were very good. ROA 1979 was my "Homecoming. " Those of us who had successfully completed our year, were welcomed "home". (Back to the ROA). Those Rocks were fun; people sang, and met up with people they hadn't seen in some time. The music from the "Big Top" at night was so good!! Remember the slogan, "fun, food, and Fellowship?" Those early rocks were so good, I couldn't wait to go to them. I went to seven of them in ten years, and enjoyed most of them. My last ROA was 1987, and it wasn't very enjoyable. It seemed to me, most of the fun, and joy had disappeared. I couldn't leave fast enough, and I knew I would never go back, and I didn't. Those early Rocks were full of good times, and good people.

T-Bone, thanks for the information.

Bliss, I think I might be going off-track, with this question, but you mentioned Donna M. If RR has left, or been outed, did she take Donna with her? I think Donna is long past retirement age,IIRC. I know RR, is 80(?), but but I would like to know what has happened to Donna. Perhaps someone knows, and can post an answer.

Pam, hello. I was a WOW in 1978-1979, in Joliet, Illinois. However, I joined the Navy in 1985. Do you remember Paul N, who was the head of Miltary Outreach? He, and his wife Rita were my first TCs back in VA Beach, in 1978. I have great memories of them!! Their "Twig", was fun! I think they have a ministry in Massachusetts, (?) nowadays.

WW, yes!! Excellent post! Thanks for the information.

RB, some of us do use our legal names. Others don't, or can't perhaps for legal reasons.

DB, I personally have a problem with many televangelists. I think far to many of them are power hungry, and money mad. JO, for example lives in a multi-million home, and drives a Ferrari. Is he teaching for the good of society, or for his personal gain? I think he is in love with living the high life. Many of his followers can barely make ends meet, yet he throws money away on fancy adult toys. Jerry Falwell recently resigned from Liberty University in Va, and reportedly received a multimillion farewell cushion. I think Olsteen, and others of his ilk, are grifters. Just my opinion.

Waysider, thanks!

DB, perhaps. But, is he right?

Way, I have a question about SOWERS; are they still in Mississippi? Is VP3 still the leader? I have read many of the recent posts, but I have read very little about them.

Twinky, I would like to know also what happened to her. I would not wish sickness, of death on her, but I would not be upset if she left TWI.

Beguiled, it's my time, and energy. I love reading the various posts on the GSC. Some I agree with, some I don't. But, even with those I disagree with, I still find the posts interesting. I personally had no idea of all the drama, that went on in TWI, until I read all the posts here. Back when I was in TWI, everything was Moonlight, and Roses, or so it seemed. However, since I started reading the posts here at the GSC, I have learned that TWI, f--cked over tons of it's people in various ways. For many of us, we spent our youth, money, and energy in various TWI programs. Youth, money, and energy, we could have used in better ways. I had some great times in TWI, but I also had some problems. I think the GSC is a wonderful, and healthy way to discuss TWI, and what it meant to various people.

T-Bone, great post!! However, I think CG should be careful about what he says, or said. I left TWI decades ago, and wish I had left sooner.