Grace Valerie Claire

Perhaps both.

Potato, so was I!! IMO, there was no excuse for the married couples, not to have their own room(s).

What, for sure!!!

Thomas, perhaps he had too much of his "special" coffee??

Ham, great post!!!

Tzaia, you are right. Also, privacy often allows people to think.

Thomas, what a nightmare!!

JJ, I used to have bad dreams about TWI. Scary!!!

Sky, I realise this is an old post to you, but it is a new post to me. And people thought VPW was a "MOG?". I think he was garbage; and totally lacking in Christian Virtues.

Sky, I would say, this class was a waste of time, and money.

BA, VPW didn't know Jack about the military. He refused to join the military during WWII.

Thomas, you have a point; LRH didn't pretend to be someone he wasn't. If Scientology isn't a "Religion", than what is it??

Ham, Dat's Rightttttt!

Sky, well-said. I saw a lot of Manure in Way World, and hated it. I prefer Truth over Manure, any day. Perhaps some day those people will get tired of the lies, and want the truth like we did.

Info, I heard VPW teach live several times, and thought he was boring as Hell.

T-Bone;

T-Bone, thank you!! I think I have a "healthy attitude" in most aspects of my life, but sometimes I get upset with some of the posts I read. However, I know that many of us here at the GSC, had vastly different experiences with TWI. Some of us had good, and bad experiences with it; some of us got messed over by TWI, and may never recover from it. I really learn a lot by coming here; there is a lot of good information here. However, I also realize that not everyone thinks like I do; I think there has to be some give-and-take in a forum like this. But, I try to think before I post. Some axxhole hurt my feelings over some petty BS; I pray that I don't do that to others. But, I must admit coming here as been an eye-opener for me. I didn't know how corrupt TWI was until I came here; wow! As I continue to post, and learn, I continue to heal, in all areas of my life. Again T-Bone, thank you for your kind post! Shalom!

Way, I think you are right. However, I think that admitting I was duped, or scammed, is the first step in solving the problem. I think some of the people who still cling to TWI, will NEVER admit to it being a huge scam. Perhaps they will die, thinking VPW was a great man of God. Personally, I would want to know the truth about VPW, and TWI, as painful as it has been. Way, when I first started to learn what really happened in Way World, all those years ago, I was angry, sad, and embarrassed, that I had given so much of my youth, and money to such a wicked organization. But, as painful as it has been knowing the truth about TWI, I have been able to deal with it, even though it has been hard to do so. Even today, I am still learning about about some of the former leadership of TWI, that makes me deeply ashamed, that I ever held some of them in such high regard. But, I am learning that I can change my beliefs, and God still loves me, and He is pleased with me.

Way, indeed it does! It is well documented how evil VPW was; why would anyone defend him!! I don't understand it, but I guess there are some things in this world I will never understand.

WW, excuse me!! I meant WW, bingo! I never thought of this group as "self-limiting", but your point is good; who wants to hear more TWI garbage. Ten years was more than enough for moi; I don't want to get caught up in another cult wannabe.

Sky, bingo!!!

OS, you did better than I did; I had a hard time listening for one minute. It made me want to barf!

Chock, what a scary thought; teachings on You Tube, like JAL's?? But, you do have a point; they probably will not last long.

Chock, you have some really interesting posts!! You make me laugh; you rock!

DWBH, wow!! I think you are right; retirement is just around the corner for many of them. I wondered why they would start their own group; they want OPM(other people's money.) They knew what was going on in TWI, and did nothing about it??!! It's one thing not to know; it's another thing to know, and not do anything about it. I am not going to give them Jack!