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Happy anniversary!! Always a pleasure to hear your insight,i thank god for you guys.

Maybe they should have a tape called"Quit thinking we will do it for you' Buy an oldsmobile it will last forever! Sheesh bod get a life let your people make up thier own minds twi your distopia is showing!

Excie, Have a great B day!!!!

Hmmm...Seed of the serpent....Proof please?The way made alot of references to an idea that is not exactly spelt out in black and white.Oh I forgot,you have to be sputualy mature.

Wanted to bring this up again...twi has always mastered "Get over it,we need to move on" Type of comments,are were? common in twi,Sometimes you just have to hash it out deal with it have a good cry fit temper tantrum whatever. It is healthy to have a past,Pictures memories,even if at times are not pleasant.Later

Go back? No!The subtle spiritual abuse is for the birds We think for ourselves! I need no one to make my decisions for me.

Roy you are by far one of the most positive people on the spot,maybe there is hope for me,as this stuff of twi has made me pretty cynical.Roy take care....

This board should be a place where people can have the chance to express themselves,air out what needs to be aired out.We all had or are having different expierences,People lurk here sometimes never posting. I know when I do I am mostly ignored,Gs has its own little click,so be it.I came here with alot of questions What is going on? was the biggest,Then when the crap hit the fan,Gs became legitimate in the sense that twi was seriously flawed. In person I am a good conversationalist but writing..well that leaves something to be desired.Let people have thier say here because twi would never allow any thoughts comments ect outside thier rigid command. There are some really great people here,you have some great abilities,Gs allows you the chance to get in the nitty gritty,So peace all.

Eagles song,get over it,Id like to find your inner child and kick its little a@@ People bit@@ complain whine ect... While there are some very important issues here, such as adultry molestation Vpee craig messing with the women,there is a lot of whineing that goes on here too,Waa waa well no religious structure is perfect,twi was a cult,they abused all of us. At some point we put it behind us and move forward,I would in all honesty,help people,Greasespot exposes the underbelly of twi,it aint always pretty but it works,I hope when I leave here I leave it a better place.

Never had a problem with studying the bible under wierwille,with loy under the present spewth was a different flavor,He boxed everything saying we had to be "likeminded" a excuse to control what everybody said and thought,It was boring...alarm bells went off..The worst was giving a summary on a teaching of his and giving examples practically applying same crap. Remember the saying biblical research does not begin with ansers it looks for them?

Wierwille had a salesmans technique he knew how to sell his product,The thing was part of it was genuine, though the work done by others.The abuses ect,do not question me,Iwish I was who I knew to be ect,made it a cult,You do not follow a man period... Loy said he was a completion of vics work,a 2nd generation..once on his own it started to fall down around him,He became bitter,and a law onto himself.

Heavy on the sarcasam,I know Mr. Obvious right?Well if it aint coming from God?Money in the bank nice 401k great house?Not available in twi cause it is the ministry ya know?Oh tricks of the deevil people can not have anything nice except the bod as they are Gods elect! Hey I thought we were,Oh no it is not physical but spuritual it is your fruits,well they are fruity!! Yep let us thank the devil

To do the impossible?No that even would not be good enough,That was and is thier control,You need us,We will show you the way.Abuse plain and simple <_<

She was 11 corps,In Michigan Last in Calif

Speaking of the aimish,We have a small sect some 40 miles away,some of them real strict,others, are"modern aimish"very materialistic.Well if it looks like a duck and walkd like one,,,, Some of the offshoots,look like twi,but..I think cff has alot of heartand the people are loving and caring. Ayone seen Big Love on hbo?That roman character is scary those dead eyes...Like a dead cult leader? :( :(

As long as vp point of view was held forth as true,it was ok,anyone elses that did not agree was of the pit. Talk about controlling!Mike by the way,The bible was around long before said vp got his revelation.Which has been proved not true as every thing concerning "I will teach you the word since it has not been known since the first century."

Now Now boys,be nice,This aint no barroom brawl.Remember it is a discussion,Please respect each others views or get out of kansas.

"Debt is sin'.So is lying to people about abundance that they never could claim,and then saying it was spiiritual and you could not receive it as your fruit was not clean.What a crock.Set standards so no one could reach.then raise the bar when you came close.What a mind game! Wake up!! God does not care about have the stuff the great "leaders of twi" thought were so important. Thans Belle for posting those letters.

Pond,That is your thoughts,and you are entitled to them,Twi is not or ever will be concerned about people,It is like loy said,it is a corporation designed to make money,The love of money motivates twi,not the love of god.Heck I am nt bitter,Thank god for this forum,I and anyone else is entitled to thier thoughts. Twi should not have to keep lists,What? A evil old over 50 corpse might cayse a problem?Twi do not flatter yourself. :offtopic I am glad people fellowship,The reading of teachings get me though,Boring,Some of the greater things in my life has been done by inspiration.

How about over a half gallon of ice cream?Why do you want that?Cause I want to eat it dammit!! God forbid,On my wow year 78-79 I used to drink a quart of milk a day,for a grand total of 33 cents!! The leadership would have freaked,as milk is bad for you you know...

You have to wait 7 days before you can post on the way message board?Good thing paw does not do that here.Seems to me,there are alot of younger people on the message board.

there will be three "highly qualified" "Ministers" teaching the class,It is supposed to be a remake of pfal so I heard.

yes I was a jerk,apologized,moved on,vowing never to be like that again.

Not to sound mean to ole loy,but ;he deserves a taste of reality Though allegedly the way keeps him pretty heavily medicated. Again,Those Ohio farmers were responsible for the Dow Chemical co. As the founder borrowed from a bunch of farmers.

Uncle Haryy day was changed to Burn the chaff day.They did not want to magnify Harry W