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Yeah what would you do if you only had 2 minutes more?Would you ask for a second chance? Old rock song quote. Am I ready? Dont think so,Just really learning how to live,Roy,keep thinking what you are thinking friend,you stimulate alot of thoughts here.

Happy happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Timothy,Refering to the epistles,Maybe,Since what was left of the "faithful" did his thing, then like the star spangled banner God leaves it as a question.or like the sopranos you draw your own conclussion. See after alot of thought "the missing century" was twi inspired junk,after all how did the"mystery" continue? How then if it was lost that amazingly vp was the only one who found it,When his ministery was from Bg lenards? The statue I have some old vey mags mayybe I will find it in one of them.I think it is.

Too much smoke and too much coke thatll kill ya Lynerd skynerd. Talking about service when he himself served noone.

Maybe he is with Jimmy Hoffa?

Thatwas our other fellow member when he walked in front of "leadership" to go to the bathroom. I say pee on them!

The red 67 pontiac was Don Wierwill#s I believe,I asked Kevin G about it once,he said there was a story behind it,though he never told me. My hope for twi land is some will go back to the keeds,and the other gets sold to a religios group that is honest and sincere in teaching the bible.We sure as hell will see no return from it.

The victory thing,I agree winning has replaced playing the game. My youngest was very little,they pulled him out of fellowship one time spanked him,as he was crying I just about came unglued after that, he and I stayed home.Scars?What do you expect?The way was every bit as scary as jim jones David Koresh ect......

Not you Mr,Ham,Your kids did and do have alot of respect for you. Just a hunch on my part. Long term effects?My daughter born raised in the vey,She turned out fine has a wicked sense of humor and a unique outlook on life. Maybe she never made it her own?Good thing if that was the case.

I know there is more than "just getting saved" Cannot say what.If you confess your sins Jesus is just to forgive them.The Vic and Mrtin!ale well there must be a lack of something I am in my life saying point blank it is incoruptable seed.We can be as judgmental as we wanna be God keeps the score, I do think we are responsible for our actions in this life,but who is to say,who falls short? Ole Vic is stone cold dead,will he be saved?Is it up to us to say? Loy on the other hand is still "suckin air" as he liked to say.Will he go to heaven? Law was not made for the righteous but the unrighteous. To each thier own.As a forum we can have different ideas.

"Could it really be that simple?" Nicholus Cage Natioal Treasure. I think it applies here,Why cannot we accept God simply giving the new birth by grace? I know all men want to do it by works,To that I say good luck!

I am partial to apo.a drawing away or out of,Ya know the gathering together!!

Ah Ham,You mean the Christ in you?I was kinda looking at the me thing, somewhere is self,the group thing of twi was scary,lose self,become one big likeminded monster,easily controlled,we were. Somewhere in all this shi@ is the self awareness the purpose. When you take away the amway of twi it falls apart,Yeah Gods word is there but where were we? Certainaly expendable to the machine,as they were the all. Dont worry what to think we wll tell you what to think Pink Floyd. The utopia actually distopia can never be acheived,The destruction of self by catcup should be brought again. Oh well deep thoughts! I laugh harder ,I live freeer.Yeah greasespoters,we had to deprogram ourselves,when we picked up the peices ofI.We began to build the authentic self.

I think in the way,we were taught to imitate,it takes away the individual.replacing it with a "drone" one of another.For instance the "clones" of craig m. To discover one self is to discover we can make choices,without someones approval. I like me,the me of now is comfortable in his own skin,I believe my family is alot better off because of it.Love ya all!! Belle great thread!!

One bc wife would call us over to clean her house,what a pain! Then she bit@hed that it was not clean enough!I was told one time to fix a door lock,so I proceeded to tear it apart the bc used the door closed it then could not get out!So I had to let him out, he started to tear me a new one,I said fine you fix it then,oh no you started you finish it They dam@ sure got too much labor out of me!!

Legalism ruled the day,Man the sure tried to kill the mystery.Life of course is not one big party.We should have fun though! With leadership,The no friends thing,I brought that subject up,If I am not your friend how can you trust me?Jesus called those around him "my friends" All I got out of it was"you are rebellous" Hell even one of the offshoots told me that!I said you do not even know me! It sucked to be in at that time,Fellowship became like a jail time,then you had to report back on what you heard!So I just repeated what ole marty said and I was accepted,accepted yes, happy hell no.

Literaly cheap gas!!Hehe

Remember we were in a cult that said"I have no friends when it comes to the word" Of course the head honcho said it we imitated it. Talk about disfunctioal!How can you have fellowship friendship if you cannot trust anyone? I know this post will be ignored, At least I have made friends outside the cult.

Matindale said in yk2 sscare that he never much liked microwaves as they caused cancer,He later sort of apologized so Sudo they were dumb as a brick Geeze I seen one guy kicked out of fellowship because he read comic books!

Yeah somebody whose mind is seared with a hot iron right? The cult is after one thing control,How can we control what people think and how can we get thier monies.Oh we can prevent an attack of the adversary. What nonsense!! First on waydale I would get a splitting headache,Well I thought maybe it is the devil spirits Really all I was doing was thinking for myself in a long time,brain could not handle it. Mr Linder or all the way lurkers when have you thought for yourselves?

Johnny,You were to be "blessed" Yeah I believe they would have blakmailed you too! Mr.Linder,I do not know you,but listen,When I left the way financialy I was in the shi@ 6 years later I am doing better,Point is Mr Linder who is gonna take care of you? Remember what they did to Mrs Wierwille? She was the first lady,all you are is a hick wannabe make believe rent a cop working for a cult.Mr Linder think about it.

You have to go to the bathroom but are afraid to ask.

Tosay the least,Come on back any time ya want I will buy you a cup of java any ole time. Drama? To me life is a drama for ole vic it was a cup of dramabuie! Take care of yourself!!

It was an attack of the devil,Trying to destroy the one true ministry,No shi@ that is what the fellowship cocrdinuts told me! They the locals still buy into that mularky ha tounge in cheek

It was is the river that never freezes. Yep we need each other,we were kept in the dark and fed shi@ for so long.we have to be fed a little at a time of what is really going gone on. They said at Dachau and the other death camps,people could not eat regular food for awhile because of what starvation does to you.