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First time I heard that he said what he said,Isaid to him your life went down the toilet after that didnt it? he says to me kinda angry,Why is that?Isays,cause God gave you a way to believe,cause you like me were taught growing up to have a respect for God.He was not real happy with my reply, This was circa 1988 in michigan. I got to be good friends with him,Onseveral occasions he came up to see me from lansing to midland. He was gonna leave the ministry,Me being a defender,talked him into staying.Well seems he became a pri@k. His fault,his choice,At least I know he always was not like he is now.

Whatever thier bumper sticker reads,We know it will not be true anyhow!!

"Promoting biblical understanding",No research?No teaching? Looks to me they are trying to "blend" in with other organizations,makes em look mainstram?No more we got the answers type of thing. Yeah.clean it up on the outside,still rotten on the inside. Pretty bland,generic though to them it probably sounds better than churh."The Way Church". The way cult is a good one.How about The Way promoting adultry?

Happy Birthday!!!!

Thanks Rocky,I was glad to see the clips.

To my knowledge dm has two sisters.

You are right,Supposedly that is all god had to "work with". How manipulative they were are.

"Not a novice,lest being lifted up with pridehe fall into the condemnation of the devil.1Timothy 3:6.That should say it all...Whether I know him or not. he is a novice,period....The bible list the qualifications.These old guys know that. yet they use vp2.To me that is deceit,Ole McMull@m should run it then.Let the "kid" see the ropes. Power,I am all of say 23 listen to me,yeah right....

Cee,Lets add 1plus one plus one,conclussion?Glad catcup had her say about cff I am glad they allow different points of view.

I think greasespot has a spin.Discussion?Differing views?I know someone has to keep the peace,I know you have to moderate,fine,delete those posters then. There seems to be play "nice" here.I hope it stays that way.

Maybe,we are not believing for it?Ha ha. God does,what god does cause he is god,and can do whatever he wants to do. Somthing about how the foolish confound the wise in this world. Hey,We are not shell anser men and women.

What got me,When we were driving pos cars,the upper twis brand new cars,we never even got thier hand me downs. With what we gave,it is easy to understand why they have millions in the bank.

Happy Mothers Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would fall under plumbing,piping trades.Though I am probably skilled labor, I work for a living,ie. I get my hands dirty.

Happy Birthday!!!!

twi loved confrontation. Period. It is our way or no way We are right,you are wrong. If in question,Refer to above. feel,We were "trained" to confront people,were we good at it?You bet Was it the right thing to do?No. We had an agenda..Sell pfal at all costs,In any way possible,As quick as possible. Get rid of people that cause "problems"

Yours was done through your husband.Mine through my wife,She reinvolved herself in twi again,then kept after me,that period was the worst of my life.I thought I would lose my wife and family,Finally enough was enough... Fear,twi greatest asset,keep em in control,keep em in line... Copenhagen,I did not mean to sound harsh,bide your time,look for an out,God will make a way,sometimes it is not twis way. Be strong,leaving twi has been done thousands of times....

I am only suprised they have not "snuffed" you out yet.If they find out you are posting on greasespot they will..It is only a matter of time.. I wish you well,I personally could not stay in twi,They did too much of a "number" on me at the end... I still see the twis around town ,and ,yes,they are civil. I DO NOT HATE ANYONE IN THE LOCAL AREA,IT IS JUST THAT i HAVE HAD MY FILL OF THEM.

Thanks for sharing Ralph,Up here in Michigan we did not have a clue. When you resigned ,They (twi) did thier evil spin,Not worth repeating,I am sure you heard it. Glad to "hear" you are allright.Even though it is old news it needs to be said.

They just plain forgot that ALL have fallen short of the glory of God. Intead they wanna be lords over gods people.

You would be better than most people,you have 30 plus years of cult traing. Keep the mog dream alive they say,we will not go quietly in the night.. Name recognition..Farm.. Come work with us,We will teach you how to work.. Hmm...Who taught them?To work I mean,After all they want to palm it off on a bunch of newbies?

Alot of us here,for one reason or another were hurting,ie. drugs religion.suicide. ect..I know I wanted somthing...The roa appealed to me..alot of people ,lots of girls hugging and kissing...It was the greatest thing next to heaven... Then came the indepth mind games,urgency of times... Do I blame the "ministry" for all my problems?No!. Just took me awhile to see,smell,taste the bs..20 some years too late... Vic and his show came at a time that may never happen again.. Now there is the internet,No one canbe isolated,or group for that matter...

Roy,You are always a pleasure to be around.Happy Bitrhday!!!!!!!!!

Hi,DM,My only conversation with docvic was a question,At WOW training 78. John sommervill@ was looking for some carpenters,so out back of the main tent we went,docvic was standing by himself,I came up to him and asked about the job, His reply?"Hell I dont know youll have to ask him yourself" Think I went about for years saying hell I dont know! Yep the man of gawd.Should have went back home from WOW training and got a real job! One more thing on WOW,lcm put it down big time,said we messed it up,we were imature, selfish,all about ourselves,Well results speak for themselves,way disciples never ever did as well as the WOWs,not in a million years.

Yes,The standing up for some guy in nana land was a little much!!Heavy on the sarcasm