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I came on this site originally because I was still "in",Lcm said do not,so I had to. My point is,That greasespot took over for waydale,it exposed the underbelly of twi. It showed through personal stories of people of the nastiness of herr vic the bod, as well as lcm.The false doctrine of being spiritually mature of handling adularty. I have thought some here were out of control,but they had,have a story to tell. sometimes I went on the attack,only to learn,I was out of line. Please be nice here,respect people,after all the abuse I (we) suffered at the hands of twi, greasespotters deserve that much.Peace all.

Sick,Hey Banard,get a life,your little cult and all,it is not worth squat. At least I did not get involved in a splinter,came close Kevin gig@2 told me I was disruptive,I replied you do not know me quit listening to other perceptions. jeff,it is all about perspective,as you now see for yourself.

Selling the old stuff,Of course thrrough the present truth,a few changed examples,illustrate a point or two, I guess it is on making the minister the main point.It has been the better part of 2 years since I talked to anyone "in". Some 6th corps guy wrote a letter to the editor,about acts,and giving to who has a need. Growth is pretty much nil here,so it is a bunch of old geezers in thier 50s running the show. Final point it is still the same vindictive cult it always was.Free at last,thank God free at last. I would rather eat magot filled beans and take an enema than go to thier disgusting crap. "We thank you father for the bod,thier health,,that they may guide us"Yech!!!

Ham,Way version statement? In real life,I agree,In twi all it meant was becoming more and more a mush brained,follower I too hope Jt did do something,I wish him well.

Happy Birthday!!May it be bright and sunny(Maybe above frezzin too)!!!!

It seemed,Right before I left twi,They the leaders,Liked you more the more you returned their scorn,maybe it was just standing up to them. The prevailing word,the promised land,it was more like a highway to hell.

At the end of my time in twt,It got so baad,They,leaders would listen to what you had to say and use it against you.If you even contradicted what they said,they threw a sh@t fit.Yeah the word was over the world,the masses would come to you,We were supposed to perfect ourselves. Like a top ranked military team.The only thing rank was twi. Lcm said God talked to him audibly the word was over the world...., Maybe that was wrong with twi,to many leaders hearing voices....

Double income no kids,The Martins are like I was,It is a lie,They are obligated,threrefore in debt,They signed a lease,promising to pay for so such and such.Whilst I was in it was ok to lease a car,You still make an obligation.Tithing?buy into the lie... Twi lives in the eternal now,A house is an asset,sure you have to work on it,what do you not have to work on? Owe no man anything?context.....oh well twi makes up the rules..At least I do not have to ask anyone for permission.

Do not know the when,Just as was said before about roadkill,All the person that left the way,would not even be roadkill just a "greasespot". Hope that helps....It was a fear tactic,plain and simple,stay "in" and endure,or there will be nothing left of you or your family. Sheesh...How could I have fall for that crap?

Oh well,at least tere was a snowstorm in Chicago Jan of 82,weekend in the word or 40th anniversary,or some such.The Way put everybody up for a night at the ways expense.

Not since the apostle Paul,has there been a revelation as to what vic received? From the 65 tape.What an ego!To receive revelation you first must become meek? Another,something inside me said ask the father,to make it snow.hmm... The whole thing was about him,to him the way ministry was him,If you disagree, you are wrong and he is right.after all god said he would teach him. Since when do you make god do anything?Welcome to vics world.

A self imposed hallucination,brought on by delusion of grandeur,not mentioned for years.... Then,when in the mogfot,he introduces it,Why some will think I am crazy.... Always have to have somthing that no one else has,showed how spurtual he was,smoking like a fiend,drinking drambuie from a coffee cup.messin with the women,he was supposed to protect..... He was full of it,a snakeskin oilman promisin the world...knew it was to good to be true.... Daddy told me a good one,from his reachin up to the cookie jar,he spoke to me audibly,wonder how long he sat on that one?

Just wondering... what movie was that from? Home Alone 2 Kevin in New York.

Even in Twas a n ight before Christmas,it says somthing about a "story" not that santa was real.

Or maybe,The way did not really care,we have all the loot,gave most the boot,and we will stay here at hq.and still sing hohoho. Mark,Thanks,I had a good laugh!A bigMerry Christmas to ya!!

Ah yes,The new and improved,one hundred percent,and added for legitimacy,by prophecy, your pleasure,Victor Paul Wierwille the 2nd,Mogfot(man of god for our time). Come to ole mississippi,follow, work your butt off,to build,sweat,toil,and yes bleed,this our sowers program.Leaving said program you will have the skills,to go out and spread the message,live the reality,be part of Victor2nd grand plan,Yes it is good to be King. You want job security?Victor2nd has it,Free land someone who works for free,money from donations,free taxes,as it is a "church"and the old geezers?why they are "staff".What a retirement plan for them. There really is a sucker born every minute.

Thats why he insulated himself,Someone would have slapped him silly,Well he already is silly.

Good for you.Wish I had done the same.

Do ya really want them to invite you back? Hi,come on in,We will bleed ya dry,with a smile on our faces,The will allegedly say.

Maybe it is a youth thing,after all.

Mr.Ham,I do not think they care who twi uses,as long as it is good for the "Ministry" Sick,comes to mind.

I am blessed to see some posts from those who are successfully moving on and who hold on to whatever they got from The Way that was positive. The rest of us had better do that so we can let the ball and chain fall away. Because as long as we're still griping it's still around our neck. I love you all. I have moved on,but what about the poor ole still in bondage?You read this stuff,You made a decision, So some of this stuff must be profitable.In my outlook there was a lot of stuff that was not good,The old Who song?"Wont get fooled again"Anyone?Griping?We all need someone to lean on,we all need someone to bleed on,"Rolling Stones". Maybe griping was and is good as "still in"twi I could never air my grieviences.

"Money for nothing,and the chicks for free"Should have been the motto for twi. The grunts,I was one of em,you pour your guts out,clean house,refreshments, mowed lawn,or shoveled driveway,2hs to clean a parksite.Yep we were slaves.. Twi,look at the free labor you lost!!

In 1977,It was an old reel to reel,squaeky,Cbs were big at that time,somehow that bled through,and sounded real bad.Never had exposure to twi until that roa 77,Charging 50 cents for like 8oz of watered down juice.Next were the wows in my home town,One here could eloborate. Classes at 30 bucks a pop,Oh,We need a gift for the leader,Natch they drove brand new cars,Then complained when some minor problem happened to said car.Refreshment,if proved by self,were never thanked for. I drank some pretty powerful koolaid,as it took almost 25 years to wake up and finally smell the coffee. NO ONE WILL EVER DO IT AGAIN!

They(twi)played off we were honest,If they asked we would tell. Now it would be F@$k them!! I t aint nor ever was gods money. No wonder,if even in the stretch of the imagination the "law of believing' never worked for fo the majority of us. A stamp or a money order subtracted from their precious abs would not have mattered. They(twi) truly has a wicked dollar.