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Should have gotten our attention "The groovey Christians of Rye New York"wierwille came ridin into town on a motorcycle,like he was a freakin rock star, Ya think he wanted to be god?sure said it often enough,"If Ida been god,I wouldnt have done it".

I hope you do,I need many voices of reason.

If you refer to "the same freakin stuff"to herr wierwille and pfal,I get that,Now the bible? Well,that is a horse of another color,I think a man can "miss it"and get the religious cult,stuff a life time. understanding the scripture?Takes faith,somthing you just gotta have,what works for one certainly will not work for another. Hence the same freakin stuff,we were all trained to be the same response,same obedience,heck for the guys same haicut suit and stupid smile,girls,dress, obedience to the one in charge. The founding fathers,Washington,Jefferson,Adams,even ole Tom Paine had morales,standards beliefs that were uncompromsing. Heck,It founded a country!Was it copied?Yep ,several sources ,From native americans to the Brits,France,Germany,Netherlands. Certainly it was not stolen,as said wierwille.Even the supreme court in the early days,the judjements were premises from the bible. One good thing about mathematics,science,is without respect to countries,religions causes.

Yeah,you are right it is the ones behind him,They(dad,Mac old guys)will not explain themselves,they are so spurtual. No taxes,live off the followers,good retirement plan.

Maybe we thought we had too much to lose,as time went on I would say for me I had enough. Ya know all I can stand,I cant stands no more.The sane part rose to the top,Losing the way,found my own way,geez jesus is still jesus. Shoulda known when (twi) restricts what you do ,say and even think ,it is time to leave the way and find a new way. God will make a way where there was no way(out).Hear that vic2?It did not work the first time,do you and the old guys think it will work now? Break the mold.Or maybe no incone taxws is right up your alley. HONESTLY YOU AINT NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.Bible?no male female bond or free?Veil rent from top down,indicating God wanted no seperation. Stop the mogfot bs,actualy be a servantand live it,there a concept,you really would turn things on its ear.

Chased him away boys,Or maybe all he wanted to do was come here stir some@@@@ and sit back and read the replies.Maybe vic 2 is sitting back relishing the fact that he must be right to receive so much flak.

Ah yes,The new cars,motorcycles,motorhomes,best clothes,best resturants Yes he(vic)and the rest of his inner group really did live on a needs basis. His needs for him and his own.

After all,'The Way" claims,they are the one true reigion.

That is exactly why it was a cult,"As every man had need" 1rst century in the 20th?No one ever paid for my gas. Entitled?Yes.That is why the whole thing played humpty dumpty,That is why the new attempt will fail.

I meant to say the car was Dons,The family member did not say,as the time they had in twi was at a end, booted from twi right after that. For the youngest,I can relate,I was the youngest in my family too,hey wait vic was the youngest in his family. Maybe the youngest are the ones who "get away with it". ham,I do not know if the young one at roa 77 sold his soul,Daddy just wanted him out of his hair. chip off the old block ya know.

Don wierwillie car,one family member remarked to me "There were amazing things done with that car."

Dont keep us in suspense,who sold thier soul?

Yeah!Give me a seven.

He vic would have done like all the offshoots,fluffed,omitted,or flat out changed information. Lookwhat the current "way,twi"has done with the history they have.

"The Way,Twi"leadership liked to use the phrase except when you stood up to them,then it was rebellion.

The only thing "The Way,Twi"own is a one way ticket to the way of death.

Howard liked to hold herr vics hand at night,in the motorcoach,said they were best friends,maybe they were thinking of squirrel thinning.

Believing equal receiving,majical formula,anyone can do it,no special skills, just take a class give us some cif,fellowship,and you too can be doing signs miracles and wonders.God is not our slave where we demand somthing and he(she) delievers. Law of believing?To quote a movie "its more like a set of guiudelines". Offshoots are like food chains all the same and not very good for you.

This has been a few years back,I was hooking and unloading trailers where I work. the trucker was talking to me he had gotten bitten by a brown recluse in Toledo, same symptoms as yours,so I would say there are brown recluses in ohio.

He was the king,Everyone bowed before him or they were history, One of my first thoughts of the way was,why are there so many pictures of him? You would think everyone revolves around him.Maybe thats why it took me 2 years before I took said miracle class. Once exposed of course it fell apart quickly.

My own two cents Shellon.as long as you tell his story,It will live on till the next generation carries the ball.Thats all we can do.There is a day coming,when the dead in Christ shall rise firST. It will happen....

Dont feel bad,The rest of us had no clue either.

I do not remember him saying he ever healed anyone.He liked to talk on how smart he was on the bible. Though his rise and expansion book never made sense to me,always a cockeyed formula,can you ever read what is written? Leap of faith time,twist,twist see,it really mean this.He sure as I was around led by example,I think he thought he was a rock star,he never just hung out with people,I think he thought he was spiritully above most of us.

In respect to those buried there,this thread is not about them,It is about what we thought was so great about the cornfield, woods.To me I liked the woods,but have been in much better,we were TOLD It was a spiritual place,It was our home we were told it was ours,we could come at any time,I went there during roa cause it was quiet. Same as the rest of the grounds,we were told we could enjoy the fountain....Well comes reality we were lied to..... Shame on them...The concept was sold to us,hook line and sinker... Would I go back to the area?Yes just in twis little area and if I did go down wierwillie road and linders little band followed me,I might have someone in the car take pictures,harrassment ya know. The woods,the grounds were like olympus where the old gods lived a myth,In reality it was all a fable wierwillie and his merry band made up.

The trick they (twi) used remember a scripture,it will solve the situation(nothing was a problem) say it over and over again.As you all here very well know here,there was an answer for everything. Depressed phil 4-19 ect.adnauseum....Nothing wrong with scripture its the way they used it. I think that way they never had to deal with anything,renew yor mind,rom 8-1 no condemnation. Heck if ya did do somthing maybe you really needed to think about it. The top leaders were reprobates as they were never responsible for anything.Vic "Hell honey god forgives you".