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We all have stories to tell,we came out of a destructive cult,obviously twi would not listen to us, As the ever tightening circle becomes tighter ,ask yourself innies is it worth it to stay in a cult who say they love god,yet do otherwise? No wonder god cant work in the cult,Remember,freely avail?

HI,exie,Good to hear ya,I come here simply because I,plain and simple spent pretty close to 20 years in a repressive cult,almost any thought was scruitized,waydale was on the scene,I lurked,Greasespot,I lurked, not many posts,I have not even reached a thousand Here I have a avenue to speak,interact and live a "normal"life outside twi. Some have called this place a vomitorium,said it is old,stale,and moved on... So be it,If I can help one person get out of twi,it will have been worth it,well the one person is moi.

It is not the way to Jesus Christ.

You are in a Christian organization,and those who run it,tell you are not christian.

The Pirates of the Ohio cornfield cult.

They(twi)has run a few classes in Mi,looks like 4 in a class . Pushing service ie disciple,way corps.Looks like they are not using the rev as much. As in title rev,not revelation.

I agree,Keep the nucelar family together,Sometimes being patiet is key,Gods timing.

I know how it is...I got into it with a twi coordinator,I told him somthing was none of his beezwaz. Told the wife I was done,she imediately ran to "them".Do not know what they said to this very day, Wife stayed,She still went to fellowships,bought a house,daughter quit going,I would not let my son go. With love and patience wife quit going,I even had Bernitt@ jes3 in my house at one time,saying she reminded my wife of a dear friend of hers.Personaly I think my wife stayed with me because of the vows.They were made to each other not the way. Stay patient God will find a way just not twi way.

That is the very reason twi fell apart.Never gave anything back,give and it shall be given unto you? Twi never practiced that,People had needs,never met.

No offense but I think they(those that are in) are brain dead,period.. Maybe,somehow,a lucd thought will slip in,heck it happened to me. All because loy said not to go on the internet,and look at waydale.... Innies there are possibilities...The way is not the only ones teaching the "word". You might find out,gasp,oh,my,They might be misleading you.

Hey Rosie PHFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!! What I think of your book of life, since when did god die and put you in charge? God is the judge not some haf baked cult.

but any time I hear the themes like "abundance".. "sufficiency" it kinda makes me think fiscally, herr vey had a bad year.. With people leaving..abs must be down....gotta promote the tithe doth still provide... A suker born every minute..the brain deads still in must have memory loss. As they are suckers all the time,every time...bleed em dry... Look people(wayers)if ya do not put in some sweat equaity on your own you will hav e nothing.. Dam# sure the way will not provide they will say that is gods problem,you aint believin big enough.

2Cor 3:5 Our sufficiency if of God.of ittalized,So our sufficiency God,is one way to put it. The way taught,since the ministry was the word and the word was the ministry,the ony way to be sufficient ofGod was the way,ie ministry,fellowship,org,follow their rules leadership,"right doctrine" formula time,A(right believing),the word(ministry version),equals sufficient god like results. Truth is the way version is lopsided as the "ministry"is pryamid structure,they being the base you giving so you get nothing, just some kinda wierd sense of satisfaction,while your real need goes unabated,ex. you need a newer car way gets your money,you still got the same ole car,now you should just be thankful to have a car.Law of beieving is not true,it is a better described gudeline,you never tell god anything.Ask and it shall be given. You do not need a whole structure for God to meet your needs,yes I said needs,the way said you only need one thing at a time,wrong. I have at any givcen time in a month,mortgage,car payment,cable water power,so I have more than one thing I need done. Leadershiup?Since when do I need way leadership to be "flush with God?No one is "spiritually responsible to another,that is wayspeak. Jesus Christ completed the law,we are redeemed.Remember completly,completly ,completly complete?The spiitually part has been done. The way was,is,good at giving somthing,taking a part back,making you depend on org,then saying it is the word. My two cents?Rely on God put your whole trust in God he will,has,past tense met what you will,and in the future need. God trully is are all in all.

Thought you were talking about an old Three Dog Night song,sorry to hear what happened to ya.

Yeah Walter B was Americana,Buck up,Tell the truth ,no shi# kinda person,vic was a copier, a pale shadow,Thank god for americas icons,of which herr wierwille was not.

Over my bloody dead corpse.

All I heard was in ac for grads 95 Rome city,Uncle howard said we killed dr wierwillie, He died of a broken heart.What a guilt trip.He lost his best friend because we were not believing for poor old herr wiereillie.Maybe if he (wierwillie) had not smoked and drank so much he would lived longer. No mention was made od cancer till I came to greasespot.

Yah Oak!Like Ham said a whole new set of skills,Old Who song "wont get fooled again" Pawtuket,continue your fine work.

Yeah,The "get over it" thing is a blanket,I gotta deal with real problems,to come up with real solutions. Thw "way'likes to hide stuff,and shuffle things under the door.

Should have gotten our attention "The groovey Christians of Rye New York"wierwille came ridin into town on a motorcycle,like he was a freakin rock star, Ya think he wanted to be god?sure said it often enough,"If Ida been god,I wouldnt have done it".

I hope you do,I need many voices of reason.

If you refer to "the same freakin stuff"to herr wierwille and pfal,I get that,Now the bible? Well,that is a horse of another color,I think a man can "miss it"and get the religious cult,stuff a life time. understanding the scripture?Takes faith,somthing you just gotta have,what works for one certainly will not work for another. Hence the same freakin stuff,we were all trained to be the same response,same obedience,heck for the guys same haicut suit and stupid smile,girls,dress, obedience to the one in charge. The founding fathers,Washington,Jefferson,Adams,even ole Tom Paine had morales,standards beliefs that were uncompromsing. Heck,It founded a country!Was it copied?Yep ,several sources ,From native americans to the Brits,France,Germany,Netherlands. Certainly it was not stolen,as said wierwille.Even the supreme court in the early days,the judjements were premises from the bible. One good thing about mathematics,science,is without respect to countries,religions causes.

Yeah,you are right it is the ones behind him,They(dad,Mac old guys)will not explain themselves,they are so spurtual. No taxes,live off the followers,good retirement plan.

Maybe we thought we had too much to lose,as time went on I would say for me I had enough. Ya know all I can stand,I cant stands no more.The sane part rose to the top,Losing the way,found my own way,geez jesus is still jesus. Shoulda known when (twi) restricts what you do ,say and even think ,it is time to leave the way and find a new way. God will make a way where there was no way(out).Hear that vic2?It did not work the first time,do you and the old guys think it will work now? Break the mold.Or maybe no incone taxws is right up your alley. HONESTLY YOU AINT NO BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.Bible?no male female bond or free?Veil rent from top down,indicating God wanted no seperation. Stop the mogfot bs,actualy be a servantand live it,there a concept,you really would turn things on its ear.