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Sound advice DWBH. I’m adhering to it, and will spend my time in other areas of GSC. This thread is going nowhere but in a 0.

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Yes you are Mike. You’re putting lipstick on a pig by legitimizing his writings with the caveat “He had a competent team of Way grads who assisted him”. They did exactly what he wanted them to do, or they got bounced. Nobody dared to cross him. I’m sincerely sorry that you’ve spent decades believing that VeePee was a legitimate scholar and teacher. He was an unrepentant, unconvicted felon. That’s YOUR HERO. I’m thankful he wasn’t mine.

If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going. When your IQ rises to 28, sell. Professor Irwin Cory. The "World's Foremost Authority". I'm waiting patiently for Mike to make a point. Any point. Besides the obvious that he's a devoted worshiper of all things VeePee.

And here’s me thinking autocorrect was the culprit!

A fiery horse with the speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty "Hi-yo, Silver, away!" The Lone Ranger! Perfect waysider!

The 1st two words in this paragraph and then what follows tell us all that we need to know about Mike’s theology.

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Yes he would. And LCM would rant for hours after watching this video and force everyone else to watch it too to show how he can “discern spirits”.

I’m not holding my breath. It takes at the very least some honesty and some courage to stand by what you say. I don’t think Mike exhibits either virtue. On another note, what an insult to God, IMO for Mike to say that p£al is God-breathed. You oughta be ashamed of yourself man. DWBH commented earlier somewhere about Mike’s “circular illogic”. He’s really good at it. There’s no end to a circle and I don’t foresee an end to Mike’s bs. I’d like to be proven wrong. So_Crates called you out Mike. Back your play.

The question I had with his statement (which may have been discussed in a previous thread) is “What was Jesus Christ doing for his body the church, since the first century”? Sitting idly by waiting for VeePee to show up? What delusional arrogance. What a crock of caca.

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He took a poll T-Bone. Remember?

There is the crux of the whole matter skyrider. And your comment can be applied to anyone who writes anything about Jesus Christ. If what’s written brings me closer to him it’s worth my time and effort. If it doesn’t, it gets trashed. VeePee’s works were stolen, poorly rewritten, without any scholarship. Mike’s dedicated allegiance to the memory and works of the cult master would be commendable if he wasn’t so terribly misguided. I pray he’s not teaching what he spews here at GSC to some desperate seeker of the Lord. Yeah, that’s my concern.

As I continue to read Mike’s post on this topic, I’m stunned at his level of dedication and commitment to an alcoholic, misogynist, delusional, serial rapist. Mike, you can’t seperate the man’s actions, legacy, and words from the man. Sorry. The convicting, eyewitness evidence is overwhelming. He was a false prophet. He was an unconvicted felon. I’m glad when I read something from an legitimately educated theologian, or for that matter scripture itself, that I no longer ask myself “What did VeePee or twi teach me about this 40 years ago”? Took me a while to get over it, but I did. Yeah. Really glad.

Had no idea there was ever a bibliography for JCING Raf. Thanks for the info. And yes, I’m sure “it was exceedingly weak”.

In all of Mike’s posts over the years, where is honor and glory given to Jesus Christ, the head of the church? Where? I see honor and glory given to the cult leader he heaps praise and adulation upon. But, what about Jesus Christ? Where does he fit in your “Way Box”. What I see like so many others who were mesmerized by the cult leader(s) is there is no room at all for the active presence of Jesus Christ. Right? Wrong? What?

“Pretty crappy” doesn’t come close to the evil these folks were/are a part of. And because you “didn’t experience” what they did makes it no less evil. These folks have been known “by their fruits”. For decades. That’s why you’re being warned. Could they change and repent? I honestly don’t know. Their video that’s been viewed here at GSC didn’t indicate any change of heart IMO. You mentioned Vince Finnegan in another comment. My suggestion is to search him here at GSC and you’ll find out all you want to know about him. I trust you’ll take the time. Again, thanks for taking your time to post here. Your insights into both groups are appreciated.

Welcome to GSC Taxidev. I’m curious how you manage to be “currently involved with both groups”? Aren’t they mutually exclusive these days? The idea that they’re “a new group, still finding their way” is (forgive me) laughable IMHO. These folks have been around for decades and were a big part of VeePee and twi’s hypocrisy, and deception. They were enablers and contributed to destroying countless lives. They’re not trying to undo anything. They still think VeePee was the greatest since Saul of Tarsus. I’m sorry, but I don’t see that they deserve or warrant any “consideration” except people should be warned about what they’re up to which in my mind is no good. I’m glad you’re here with the courage to post your views. Please keep it up. Merry Christmas.

He does this with everyone he’s friends with on Facebook. He still believes he’s the greatest show on earth.

Was there a poll taken of the “thousands of thankful grads” Mike? Vee Pee’s agenda was evil from its inception. How do YOU weigh the good against the evil? Too many people’s lives were crushed by becoming involved with pfal. I for one will not “admit to the GREAT good that came out of PFAL”. But that’s just me.

That’s pretty insulting doncha think Mike?

I think you’re right DWBH. I never was a big fan of dispensationalism because for me it complicated scripture to the point where Jesus Christ’s ministry was “pigeonholed” into a specific timeframe and I shouldn’t think of him outside that. The whole “OT and gospels were for our learning thing” I guess I may be “oversimplifying” scripture nowadays by just thinking about it in terms of old covenant and new covenant. Nobody in the bible ever said anything more important than what Jesus Christ said/says. Beyond that my eyeballs start rolling around and I scratch my head a lot.