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Memento Mori The philosopher Democritus trained himself by going into solitude and frequenting tombs.[5] Plato's Phaedo, where the death of Socrates is recounted, introduces the idea that the proper practice of philosophy is "about nothing else but dying and being dead".[6] The Stoics of classical antiquity were particularly prominent in their use of this discipline, and Seneca's letters are full of injunctions to meditate on death.[7] The Stoic Epictetus told his students that when kissing their child, brother, or friend, they should remind themselves that they are mortal, curbing their pleasure, as do "those who stand behind men in their triumphs and remind them that they are mortal".[8] The Stoic Marcus Aurelius invited the reader to "consider how ephemeral and mean all mortal things are" in his Meditations.[9][10] In some accounts of the Roman triumph, a companion or public slave would stand behind or near the triumphant general during the procession and remind him from time to time of his own mortality or prompt him to "look behind".[11] A version of this warning is often rendered into English as "Remember, Caesar, thou art mortal", for example in Fahrenheit 451.

I tried. But it's a non-sequitur. Oh, and btw, I had some things to say about Mike's nonsense, but after reading everyone's comments from today, I can't remember what they were... either than or it really doesn't matter anymore.

Again, we come to Mike suggesting we need to cater to his direction on how discussion is to be conducted at gsc. Take a hint. If no one is interested in your point or your question, oh well.

Professor Frankfurt understood well. And I think you do pretty well too.

Do you even realize that to be a violation of Jesus' admonition to "Judge not...?" Who the F are you to tell whether or under what conditions anyone else might be at peace (or agree to any degree) with what you wrote?

IOW, (put more simply) it means "this is what I've decided it means."

Have any of you wondered why modern society is so anti-woman? Could it be related to the origin stories in the bible? MEN of God wrote it. Eve was the villain? The entire society we live in revolves around a dogma that subtly demeans women as less than equal. The more I think about it, the more I challenge the idea that the scriptures were inspired by God. And I agree w/Twinky, though I only watched half that video. Those first two white guys were just speaking memorized words with a modicum of expression... but without genuine authenticity in their presentation... IMO.

Where does it say GSC threads are logical discussions? Presumptuous properly applied and still properly applies. Including that you presume to set the framework for logical discussions. Of course, Old School is correct. We've known about you in that regard for years.

Great catch. If WE can do so properly, I suppose we wouldn't need Wierwille's or his lackeys to do it for us. Hence, they were able to keep the REAL underlying purpose of the cult, human need for belonging, obscured so they didn't have to disclose it up front.

My father used to tell me: it's not what you know, it's who you know.

Which probably was a factor on how/why we became vulnerable to this particular cult. I mean, how many people who took PFLAP came from Islam or other traditions/religions?

Is this an admission on your part, Mike, that you come here for the primary purpose of beating dead horses?

Seriously? What makes you think I was at all confused? That's awesomely presumptuous of you Mike. Alas... yet still not persuasive.

Why would it be so much more catastrophic for anyone (here) who is not you? Still absurd.

Mike said: "You can't really attack my logic or my data, so you attack me. You fear "authority" as whistle blowers will be blown." Seriously? I didn't attack you. But you're saying I "fear" authority? You? Are you claiming to be authority? Are you claiming to be a whistleblower? That's just silly.

You said that like it's something that IF a person wanted to, s/he COULD forbid God from working with sinful men...

Oversimplified... but I understand.

That's my understanding of Moss's position.

YES!

Cryptic and obtuse. If this is something you'd like to discuss, more information (clarification) on your intent is necessary.

Noted and corrected.

You're one to talk... about missing any point. If you want people to get your points, you might consider changing your approach. Cryptic and obtuse generally doesn't promote avoidance of misunderstandings.

What a horribly pessimistic and self-limiting declaration. "Knowledge is power" is a saying that goes back at least four centuries. Whether or not what Loy Martindale or Victor Wierwille taught gives a person much power can be debated, for sure. However, as a concept in the abstract, there's a lot of truth in the proverb and the oodles of meaning underlying it. Internet search "knowledge is power"