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Rereading that comment (the entire comment), to me it seems even more salient and awe inspiring that the GSC member who calls herself BecomingMe chose that moniker.

I don't recall for sure, but that could be the case.

I continue to learn and experience "sunesis" (running together of rivers, or something like that, but can also be described, IMO as connecting the dots). Recently, I recognized this: Talk about emotional projection! Do a GSC site search for hypnosis. The subject has come up before. But several threads/comments (well before Skyrider spelled it out this week on a thread about Wierwille's PFLAP (1967 filmed class)) cited the advanced class on what I refer to as PFLAP. In THAT class, so much verbal sleight of hand to make everyone afraid of it because of devil spirits. Well, hypnosis is MUCH less complicated than Wierwille led us to believe. From wikipedia: Now, according to such an explanation, it seems apparent that Wierwille used theatrics to induce a form of hypnosis in the "foundational" PFLAP class. Clearly, what we experienced in PFLAP wasn't overtly coercive (at least at first). We were left with the impression that we still had agency. But did we have a version of agency with significant constraints? Anyway, I should probably stop there.

IIRC, a couple of clergy/researchers/corpse grads were exiled (fired and/or M&A'd) for publishing a research paper on adultery.

YES! A thousand times, YES! Back then, critics would say we were brainwashed, but it took decades before academic research had pinpointed how and why that was the case. In a sense, his histrionics were intended as a form of hypnosis, to get us to reduce our resistance to his mind shaping (controlling) suggestions.

Can you see threads with new comments (highlighted)?

They taught emotional projection by constant demonstration.

Productive means keeping the honchos in NK flowing in cash.

There ya go, Oldies... and T-bone. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/notifications/options/ There's options for content you want to be following and/or members you want to do the same. Otherwise, I would suppose you have to scan through the forums at the highlighted threads to determine if there's one or more you'd like to follow.

Or, if there is, nobody who read this thread knows or uses such a setting. I don't know. If one exists. However, one might try asking a moderator directly or posting a thread in the tech issues forum.

BAZINGA! as Sheldon Cooper would say. It's a curtain of verbiage. BAM! as Emeril is wont to say. T-Bone said: Obviously we can't measure it. I'd bet, however, twi would use such notions to narcissistically justify the spiritual nature of it. Wouldn't change that it's still all bull$hit. Then Skyrider summed it all up: Of course!

We've ALL heard the aphorism that power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. THAT is the bottom line and entire essence of Victor Wierwille's ministry. And frankly, Martindale made it look even more starkly so. The Abuses of Power PRINCIPLE 13 Power leads to empathy deficits and diminished moral sentiments. PRINCIPLE 14 Power leads to self-serving impulsivity. PRINCIPLE 15 Power leads to incivility and disrespect. PRINCIPLE 16 Power leads to narratives of exceptionalism. Keltner, Dacher. The Power Paradox (p. 101). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition. Twinky ALSO said (further up on this page) Could it be possible for ALL of us to write memoirs highlighting how we endured TWIs drama depicting all four of those Abuse of Power principles?

I doubt anyone can provide any kind of history or concrete meaning. But hey, maybe.

Ugh. So, it's a subculture construct with no concrete meaning? I reflect back on some of Skyrider's posts about the obsessive need for "leadership" [self-appointed human masters/slave drivers] to pester underlings into some form of compliance with nebulous busy work demands in support of selling classes with made up importance.

Btw, I'm just starting to read How Minds Change by David McRaney. Some GSC netizens might be interested in it too.

I look forward to reading your part 2.

A key to this is trust. I used to trust Wierwille.

A contest to see who is the quickest to be hypnotized? (I'm not joking. Isn't that really what's going on?) Hypnosis, also referred to as hypnotherapy or hypnotic suggestion, is a trance-like state in which you have heightened focus and concentration. Hypnosis is usually done with the help of a therapist using verbal repetition and mental images. When you're under hypnosis, you usually feel calm and relaxed, and are more open to suggestions. Hypnosis can be used to help you (or someone else) gain control (or heightened influence) over undesired behaviors or to help you cope better with anxiety or pain. It's important to know that although you're more open to suggestion during hypnosis, you don't lose control over your behavior.

ALL of which simply, yet starkly, underscores the UN-Christian nature of the entire "ministry."

That's some seriously great info. Thanks very much. Btw, I don't use my oven when it's hot outside (May-ish till sometime in October). Eventually, I'll probably buy a bread machine and do some extended reading on Bittman's site and seriouseats.com

I live near Mesa. I've heard of (good things) Proof bakery.

Not to sound rude or anything, but I think you read my question. I'm gathering information, as I am wont to do. For what, you may ask? I buy (and consume) Dave's Killer Bread 22 Grains and Seeds variety. At some point, I may explore the possibility of making a knock off of that bread at home, if I can figure out how to make it less expensively than I have to pay to buy it now. When I first started using that brand/variety, I was consistently paying $4 or less per 27 oz loaf. Now, it's at least $7.50.

Do any of you make a whole wheat or multi-grain bread?