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aka subterfuge. It has been what, nearly 40 years since he died? In that time, a heck of a lot of increase of available knowledge has become available and obvious. Three books shining bright lights on the growth of knowledge are (and no doubt there are many more) include: Especially chapter 2. and To me, what our good friend wordwolf described represents a sort of second renaissance out of superstition. The first was possibly spurred on by Thomas Paine's essay, The Age of Reason.

By whom?

As if Mike is capable of excellence?

T-Bone, I'll echo Waysider's sentiment.

Doesn't look like you posted it way back when...

Then again, excellence was and is not Mike's forté.

By MIKE. Perhaps a direct message to him might get his attention. But then again, it has been about 18 years since he mentioned it, so he may not remember.

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/gmir ??

Yes, >20k some years.

He is playing the role of troll. Probably counterproductive to attempt to reason with him at all anymore.

The entire third chapter of Mama's Last Hug discusses empathy and sympathy. I go back in my mind to reflect on the lack of concern both Wierwille and Martindale consistently (at least in the open) demonstrated toward those outside of the "in group." They, of course, defined the "in group" as the Household." Further defined as those who "took the class and stood with twi." I have long viewed that position as callous and lacking in the care necessary to properly exercise the Ministry of Reconciliation. See II Cor 5:17-19. Personally, I can almost understand how/why those two (Victor and Loy) wouldn't be able to grasp the ministry of reconciliation because so much has been studied and written about empathy since the end of the personal ministries (inside of twi) of both of them. Then again, had either or both of them actually been "tapped in" to the love of God, instead of being more concerned about using their personal position (power/authority) to satisfied their own old nature passions, they might have been able to figure it out without Frans de Waal or Dacher Keltner.

That IS a profound realization. My latest reading adventure, Mama's Last Hug, has likewise profound insight related to things GSCers have reflected on, including but not limited to "going farther than one has been led;" and learning by imitation, IOW how did we get there in the first place. It also highlights what Augustin Fuentes has said in YouTube shorts that rather than "we are what we eat," instead, we are (or become like) WHO WE MEET. (he says this at the 5:05 point in this video)

SMH

Btw, I appreciate comments on this thread made by waysider and Nathan. Thank you.

You have NO idea what I want. You've pointed out plenty of things that have no connection or relevance to this thread's topic. Where's that darn mute button?

I'm not sure what you meant by that. However, I can say your previous response: Didn't seem to address emotional issues in raising children.

There's also the emotional guidance/support aspect of raising kids to give plenty of consideration to. But thanks for clarifying what you meant.

Great insight. I also hope he gets plenty of emotional validation from you so he doesn't need to seek it elsewhere.

Not related to providing any parent with any insight on how to prepare their own children for life while minimizing the child's vulnerability to cult predation. I'm getting the impression waysider that you're either trolling intentionally or just don't understand the question.