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And Excie, I DO like you, but not because you agree with me (or even if you don't). You're generally pretty candid with people here but do so in ways that are considerate. And do so much better than I can. And I admire that. So there. :D--> You talkin to me?

This STARTED by me being BANNED for doing what ZIXAR is getting praised for doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Linda, I don't take anything you say to me as an attack. It doesn't hurt me for you to tell me what you think. Even in disagreeing with me, or telling me you think I've done something wrong. There's no malice in what you are saying to me. That is very UNlike what zixar has been doing PROTRACTEDLY here. And Linda, have YOU considered that you don't have all of the facts? the FACT is that PAWtucket got very angry at me for doing what laleo is praising zixar for doing now. It IS that simple. :D--> You talkin to me?

Laleo, What hypocrisy. You condone Zixar reporting a thread that broke no rules, but you have tirade after tirade condemning me. However, your lack of awareness of what my LEGITIMATE concern about the administration of this site makes your butt-in-ski-ness in this thread all the more absurd. Because the fact is that MY concern has ONE root and ONE root only. That is that at QQ's suggestion, Paw set up the alert button so that said concerns could be handled privately, rather than publicly. Pawtucket banned me for NO other reason but that I used the alert button to report a couple posts made by zixar and qq that were hateful attacks on me. In response to my reporting of said posts, Paw rewrote the rules more than once to make it such that he could justify saying I didn't have legitimate complaints, when, before the rewrite, I did. Pawtucket's next step was to try to humiliate me. I refused to be intimidated. Pawtucket's next step was to ban me from the main political forum. Zixar continued to harass me and hence the hateful attacks on me continued. I called attention to it. Pawtucket's next step was to ban me from both political forums all together. Then, when I posted a legitimate issue for discussion in the OPEN forum, because that was the only place I was allowed to do so, Zixar's current (now five or six day) attack began and apparently hasn't let up. When Pawtucket heeded Zixar's alert (even though I had violated NO rule...so, by definition we have an unbalanced and biased administration of the site, at least in this situation), he moved the thread, and did NOT tell me whether it had simply deleted or moved elsewhere. At that time, I did NOT have access to the forum, so I posted this thread to ask the question. Zixar took over and has not let up in his hate for me. Do I owe Pawtucket an apology for me telling the truth about the unbalanced administration of this site? Pawtucket has not demanded one, nor has he asked me for one. Laleo, you copped an attitude against me from the first time we interacted, which I recall had to do with me agreeing with something you said. And you told me you were offended that I would dare to agree with you. You've never been anything but hateful to me, but it hasn't, until this thread, been as intense as that which lives so intensely in the words of Zixar. :D--> You talkin to me?

without looking, the thread title IS "As Arizona goes..." It is about Barry Goldwater and an article written reflecting on his politics. The thread and the decaf politics forum has been idle for two days.... all without me looking since earlier today (several hours earlier). The fact of the matter is I disagree strongly with Linda Z. But guess what -- she wasn't attacking me, even when she said she thought I was wrong. Zixar and laleo can take a lesson from that. At some point, I really wish people would let it (this thread) die. I will not be intimidated by anyone who stalks me, who is as intensely and consistently hateful (not JUST) to me, and what I said about what I believe Pawtucket did in this whole series of situations still stands. Is there a conspiracy? that's ridiculous. And I didn't say there was... :D--> You talkin to me?

niKa, 13 new inches of snow at Summerhaven (Mt. Lemmon) last night! . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

I agree with Pat on this issue. Privileged communication means that the lawyer (in this case) is not obliged to disclose the particular communication. If this was not obtained from twi's counsel, then there would be no issue of legal consequence for posting here or at excultworld. And if it was obtained by disclosure from an Ohio government agency, then the question becomes, where, from whom, and how did they obtain it? If it was submitted into evidence in a trial, then, unless the judge grants a motion to prevent disclosure, it's public record. :D--> You talkin to me?

What do you call 25 skydiving lawyers? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SKEET! :D--> You talkin to me?

zixar, your post is just more self-justifying drivel. You demand everyone cowtow to you. If this isn't about you, but about Pawtucket, why is it that Pawtucket isn't expressing the same indignance? You, sir, are a genuine enigma. . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

Laleo, Your post at 12:08 above is about the most absurd contrivance I've seen on this site. First, this thread, past the post where Pawtucket restored my access to a political forum is something that Zixar is primarily responsible for preventing from dying. Second, there is no conspiracy on this thread, or any behind the scenes that I have either any awareness of or participation in - to silence zixar. On the contrary, those disagreeing with zixar have specifically addressed his comments and avoided judging him. Something I don't share in, but that's ok. For someone who throws about big words generally used only by mental health professionals, your post seems to be a declaration as reality of something that apparently exists only in your mind. What's the best word for that? I appreciate your kindness. . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

How did YOU get appointed to the position of THE person to whom we must all justify our thoughts? . . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

Thank you Excie for taking such an important stand for truth! . . . . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

I think Zixar is the one who has been unapologetically hateful and should apologize all around. BUT, I realize it is not my place to tell some one like that when he owes an apology. Laleo, well, she's just being laleo... remember the meaning of the greek word. And one of the arguments, if I recall correctly, that Zixar made earlier on in this, HIS thread, is how people trivialize problems. In the above post, Mr. Zixar trivializes at least as much as anything I have done or anyone else has done about this apparently major problem of me not seeing Zixar's point of view and accepting his demand to control my conduct. :D--> You talkin to me?

Bravo Garth. Finally we have a logic based argument! . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

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I hope everyone isn't buried in someone else's hubris... :D--> You talkin to me?

In evidence? Oh boy. . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/troll.htm Beware the Troll To "troll" means to allure, to fish, to entice or to bait. An internet troll is someone who fishes for people's confidence and, once found, exploits it. Whilst the vast majority of internet users are bona fide, there are undoubtedly some trolls out there. :D--> You talkin to me?

Let me get this straight... Zixar is publicly declaring that his obsessively hateful conduct is my fault, because I refuse to be intimidated into apologizing at his direction? How quaint. . . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

btw, Excie... I wasn't talkin to or about you in this... I think I understand your sense of humor... irony goes a long way in communicating persuasively. . . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

I think it's particularly intriguing that so many people see fit to apologize to Zixar, as if they have done something wrong, just because he declares it to be so. and, as Jonny Lingo states so poignantly, "I cannot believe that this threat continues. Having stayed out of the fray has hopefully illustrated who is the real obsessive individual in this whole stink. And, of course, it is stinky. Bravo for those who prefer not to take sides. But puhleeze, allowing him to bully you also into believing you have something to apologize to him about? . . . . . . . . :D--> You talkin to me?

Actually, the Bill of Rights was established to prevent the tyranny of the majority in the context of democracy. America is NOT about tyranny of the majority. :D--> You talkin to me?

yo quiero taco bell! :D--> You talkin to me?

Valerie, I pose these questions not to be argumentative, but because I genuinely don't understand: What will we be paying? What, specifically, will we be paying for? "They" will not get the same benefits as us. What benefits? What will it cost us? How are things going to get worse? I just don't see it yet. I don't see it from the bible. I don't see it from history. Please explain. Thanks. :D--> You talkin to me?

Well, that lets Excie and Dr.Strange off the hook! :D--> You talkin to me?

Thanks for the warning friends. I'll save my movie dollars on this one. The comments, for the most part, remind me of my impression of a critically acclaimed movie from last year, A Mighty Wind. I rented the DVD and was amazed at how dumb and boring it was, even though it has lots of usually funny people in it. :D--> You talkin to me?