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What's a BLOPPER?

Back in the day...(when I was married... before 1994), which obviously was before 9/11... we (yes, with my now ex-wife, a couple of times) enjoyed a late evening tryst on an upper floor of a parking garage (outside the car) at Phoenix Sky Harbor... :D tremendous fun... easy to get isolated where no one else was around. I seriously doubt that would be a good idea anymore. I agree 100%

Actually, the high here was about 85F today... VERY nice!

Appropriate according to whom? btw, I still think it might be fun to tell each other where the funniest/strangest/wierdest place we've ever done it... but since we don't have access controls like on cable/satellite tv, it's probably not a good idea. :D

Ya think?

Here in the winter (spring) home of the SF Giants, even the weather's feeling like it's time to begin Spring Training! Mid-70s and clear skies today! Okay, men.... put your lockers in order, weigh in, then begin your stretching exersizes and first day ball toss, in about an hour, we'll meet on the field to begin drills!

Ok, I did some research. It seems my memory WAS indeed too hazy. :o In 1988, Williams threw 4TD passes and the Redskins came from a 10-0 deficit in the 1st quarter to win 42-10. So, it seems Nance was probably correct. So... never mind my previous post.

All in all, given the substantial rain throughout the game, I'd say it wasn't as bad a game as many Super Bowl's have been. I don't know if anyone else heard this, but as the were going to a commercial, around the end of the 3rd or beginning of the 4th quarter Jim Nantz made an apparently insane and (I think) definitely wrong claim -- that no team (in a Super Bowl) had ever gone on to win after trailing by 12 points, as the Bears were at the time. I didn't look it up (yet), but I have a vague recollection of the Redskins' Doug Williams coming from (farther) behind the year Williams threw 5 TD passes in the game... Of course, it's possible my memory was TOO vague, and therefore, I may be incorrect. Anyone know?

King Pharmaceuticals Next year, the Arizona Cardinals will be the home team and represent the NFC. (Game to be played at U of P Stadium in Glendale, AZ) ...said with a straight face... but started laughing as soon as the post posted! (location is correct, however)

good idea :)

Completely understandable. IF you WERE allowed to express your opinion, the best you could hope for is to only offend SOME of the people... much better just to not even get into it. :) Well, I can't speak for the young vets, but as a Vietnam era vet who lived in AZ before enlisting, I had something to come home to regardless of any (or no) gov't involvement. I did use my GI Bill benefits to help me get through college (by no means was it enough on its own); bought my first house using a VA guaranteed mortgage, and now (in my 50s) get my medical care from the VA. I don't know what I would have done if I had no family when I came back... so, I won't comment on that. However, I have read reports indicating that the Bush administration has grossly underprepared for Iraq war vets returning with all of their war wounds (physical and emotional). Having worked as a state accountant and for a newspaper covering our legislature, I've had opportunity to get to know many of them. There are most certainly some pompass jerks (like Jack Harper, Ron Gould, etc. ...isn't Ron Gould your state senator?). But my experience is that most of them are genuinely good people doing their level best to make a difference for good. Two problems with that, that I'm aware of, are the vast range of beliefs and values which present honest disagreement on what that good would look like and; the fact that so many issues in society are so complex that permanently solving a problem is next to impossible... but I truly understand your frustration and your insight.

This, IMO, is NOT a debate. Sure, obviously you'd like to pick a fight. But I just don't care what you do or do not see... AND I do not care whether you agree or disagree with me. I get no payoff either way. I have neither a need to prove you wrong, nor to prove ANYTHING to YOU. You make excellent points, Abi. Thanks.

Because they did. The primary thing those Reagan era policies brought about was the overwhelming disconnect between wages and the compensation of CEOs. In other words, what was supposed to trickle down, didn't. Instead, it flowed like Niagara into the "ownership class", despite the tremendous increases in worker productivity. Then, with the more obvious factors -- billions of people in China available to work for pennies on the dollar of American workers' wages, and dramatic cost reductions and technology increases in telecommunications -- in the underregulated economic environment in the US, left the American working class as odd man out. this post is a respons to rhino. You see, the job of the American CEO, much like the individual entrepreneur, is to EXPLOIT opportunity. And for any of you who have degrees in any business administration related field know, that is NOT my wording.

Government employees who regularly have contact with the general public (NOT necessarily the same as a customer service job) do NOT have the discretion to offer any advice to an individual based on her/his own judgement. IF it's to be, it's going to have to be something the policy making body responsible for the function (i.e. city council, board of supervisors, state legislature) authorizes.

Well Belle, first point to make is that this is NOT a new idea. I remember when I was a kid, my dad told me about Public Works projects that were used to provide work for people who couldn't find work... that conversation took place in the 1960s. And the 1960s was the era of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society. The public works dad was talking about took place, according to him at that time, in the years following the Great Depression (1930s). Since then, we've had Ronald Reagan usher in Trickle Down economics, aka Supply Side economics. The idea was to cut taxes and reduce regulation ( ) to stimulate private investment, and therefore increase private sector jobs AND wages. The reality was that the idea was the bait but it eventually brought the switch to outsourcing jobs to lower costs (and hence wages) and offshoring jobs (shipping virtually ALL manufacturing to China and many if not virtually all customer service center jobs to India). I wish it were as simply as initiating a campaign to get the attention of Congress. Unfortunately, it would take so much systemic change to our economic and government systems to even come close these days.

LindaZ... my question, as yours appears, was rhetorical. btw, ChattyKathy... rather than being asked to leave, I'd instead figure you'd have people (the guys, of course) ask you to marry them!

that's not really the point. However, if one is not able or willing to examine their motives/intents/reason for posting, who am I to suggest otherwise?

Tap, Tap... is THIS thing ON?

Is this a group therapy session? Whatever other reason could there be for such a discussion, if NOT for group therapy? All these "hypothetical" scenarios are incredibly troubling. What possible good can come from just discussing "nebulous intellectual concepts" (if these are NOT things people have in their lives to evaluate and/or resolve)? The person who started this thread wondered (out loud, at least "loud" enough that I could read it) about how related criminal laws are made. I answered that question and I don't believe ANYONE even acknowledged that post. Is this just some mental exercise completely divorced from anyone's real life experiences? Y'all ought to take a deep breath, stop and reflect on whatever the heck you think you're doing with this topic. What good could possibly come from trying to prove someone else -- and their idea of what does or does not constitute rape -- wrong? I wish there was an emoticon for shrugging one's shoulders and/or scratching one's head in bewilderment.

Thank God for the S-CHIP program! I WISH! Oh that we had politicians with enough balls to get THAT done! That's PART of the reason why the repugnicans lost control of Congress this year AND why voters in several states (including AZ, and I voted FOR it) enacted higher minimum wage laws than federal law now provides.

That's likely the case, but there's STILL nothing Notawayfer can do about it...

You mean no women (or few anyway) think in terms of manipulation and control using sex as leverage? I SERIOUSLY doubt that... obviously, my research has been limited, but I'd bet there are few who do NOT think in those terms, at least some of the time. I know, how cynical of me. I do agree however, that's still no justification for rape. Perhaps the understatement of the year... but not necessarily related to a discussion of rape, which is an act of violence.

Ah...it was sooooooooo long ago! :P

I hope you get recharged too! :D Now, I understand your situation. I spent 8.5 years as an accountant for the State of Arizona (you're in AZ, right?). It costs money to maintain civil society. THAT is WHY we pay taxes. Granted, hating taxes and our government is probably right at the top of everyone's list of favorite sports/pasttimes. But that doesn't change the economic realities. It costs money to maintain a police department (as imperfect as they invariably are), a fire department, to maintain roads, county health inspectors, etc. etc. If people have a hard time paying their taxes, about all I would be able to tell them is "I understand. Please, you're welcome to talk to state lawmakers, city councils and country supervisors, because THEY made the rules. And if you get them to change the rules, I'll be at the front of the line to help you out... In the meantime, I have to do what I'm told. Sorry." Of course, how you say things to irate citizens matters... and compassion probably goes a lot farther than aloofness in getting the job done without causing a ruckus... Anyway, I understand and hope you feel better, ready and rare-ing to go by Monday. :)

Excie... you know I never correct your grammar! (or need to guess at what you mean) ;)