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I paid $1.79 a couple of days ago and the price has dropped as much as a dime since. I saw a station with $1.69 today. Probably other places in the Phoenix area are down to the low $1.60s... There was a segment on 60 Minutes tonight about Saudi oil.

Or sinfully prideful.

1) I don't see the point of having merged these two threads. 2) What point is there to arguing with whitedove? :)

"Mad Dog" Greg Maddox is DONE. Installation in the HoF currently scheduled for the summer of 2013.

:) TU

Thanks Excie and Hiway and everyone!

Obviously, one possible problem is skimming... At some point, however, the feds required churches to provide statements for donors to use to back up (use for evidence of) amounts claimed as deductions for tax purposes. I don't remember when that change may have taken place...

Oh boy! I can't wait to see what your next essay will be.

NEW YORK (AP)—Career steals leader Rickey Henderson heads 10 first-time candidates on this year’s Hall of Fame ballot, joining holdovers Mark McGwire and Jim Rice—eligible for the final time. Other newcomers are Jay Bell, David Cone, Ron Gant, Mark Grace, Jesse Orosco, Dan Plesac, Greg Vaughn, Mo Vaughn and Matt Williams. Just 23 players are on the ballot, the smallest group ever. Holdovers include Harold Baines, Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson. Tommy John, Don Mattingly, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Tim Raines, Lee Smith and Alan Trammell. A 10-time All-Star who played from 1979-2003, Henderson holds the career records for steals (1,406) and runs (2,295), and his 2,190 walks are second to Barry Bonds’ 2,558. Henderson also is first in caught stealing with 335. Henderson played for nine teams, winning the 1990 AL MVP award with Oakland. ---------- So, will anyone make it in this year besides Ricky?

Hey Friends... you're wonderful! And Lifted, HB to your son too! :)

I dunno... I get my reading glasses at the local dollar store... and pay ONLY $1.00 for a pair... they'd have to find something they could do better than the dollar stores...

I think more than one of Penworks's questions were rhetorical in nature.

Well, I suppose... but I was thinking that insight was someone else's, since I never had to deal with it while I was still involved with them...

I've had geico for a couple of years (and no complaints from me). Last spring, I was in a very minor collision which happened to be my fault... (I backed into a moving car)... I made one phone call and (except for my rates going up next time the premium was due) it was over and done with from my perspective. They WERE friendly (as indicated in the commercials) and my rates didn't increase very much.

I sorta went to college to learn about accounting... but last worked in the field (as an accountant) 10 years ago. And it's been much longer since I've had any contact with twi, so there's no chance I have any insight as to why they aren't loaning money to their 1000+ (credit union) members (according to the credit union statement). And nobody should be alarmed that the county records do not agree (in the value) with that shown on the combined balance sheet filed with the Arizona Corporation Commission. The purpose of the county records is to value them for calculation of property taxes (if not exempt) and the balance sheet reflects cost less accumulated depreciation (as previously noted, for the buildings, equipment and machinery, but NOT on the land).

Yes... I see that. The bulk of their assets are in other securities... Loans WOULD still be assets, if they did that.

Loans ARE assets on the financial statements of a credit union. For the borrower, a loan is a liability. For the lender, the loan is an asset. Accounting definition of an asset is something used in a business to generate revenue. Loans, for credit unions generate interest income. But the financial statement subject to this thread discussion does not show any credit union activity. However, some of the temporary investments might include deposits in the credit union. Btw, from the perspective of a credit union, deposits represent liabilities.

It's net of accumulated depreciation. Accumulated depreciation is listed on that statement, for Gunnison, at what appears to be about $6.94 million. Accum Depr is a way to expense the cost of an asset over its useful life. It doesn't apply to land, but does apply to buildings, machinery and equipment. Net asset (book) value does not necessarily reflect current or fair market value (FMV), which would only show up on the financial statements when a transaction (sale of the property, for example) were to take place.

Yes he did and yes I am. One game in 2007, Owings went 4 for 4 and was the winning pitcher... that was exciting.

The combined balance sheet does show the value of assets related to Gunnison broken out seperately. Indiana is NOT shown. Didn't they sell off the Rome City property? Headquarters, The Way of the USA, International Outreach and Gunnison are each shown seperately then combined on that combined balance sheet. My interpretation, without additional detail from their records, would be that any properties (in the US) owned outsite of New Knoxville (like maybe houses in Cedar Rapids or Toledo, etc) would be in the Way of the USA (except for Gunnison), any in Canada or any other country would be in the International Outreach. This filing with the Arizona Corporation Commission does NOT include a statement of revenue and expenditures/expenses. So, there is no way to clearly identify what they took in by way of ABS. It shows accrued payroll (a liability) and accrued pension liability, but no detail as to how many people are involved in those aggregate amounts. Gunnison assets ARE included with a book value (it's very difficult to read, so this is only approximate) of $3.4 million (net of accumulated depreciation on buildings, equipment and machinery). Perhaps you were looking only at the CURRENT assets, which total approx $68K. Long term assets (for Gunnison) are listed at $3,430,247.06.

To find out what each listing at the Dun and Bradstreet site means, one would have to pay money to look at the reports...

Then they should go after Micah Owings... he could be had from the Reds for a lot less than CC in free agency...

I wonder that too... especially wondering what our involvement in Vietnam would have been had he lived. I was in 4th grade at Sacred Heart (Catholic) School in Rochester, NY. It was a sunny day but we were old enough to feel the shock and sadness.

Sounds like we won't have to try...