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I'm keeping cool (as long as the electricity and a/c continues to work)! :) Hope you're well, Excie.

Did you notice that they registered the trademark, S.O.W.E.R.S.? and they also use W.O.W. Ambassadors with the TM to show they claim it as a trademark but that it is not registered? Trademarks

Actually, restored, that could be a wonderful vehicle... but it would take a lot of elbow grease and other things to get it fixed up. :)

Isn't that special?

Good grief. This guy's office is a mere three miles from my home. He looks (from a very cursory scan of the text on his website) a quack. The location, however, in downtown Scottsdale, can lead one to figure he preys on (rather than prays for) affluent individuals with more money than brains. And I thought the Way College only conferred associates degrees.

The sooner the better. My 79 year old mother smoked for a long time but quit a long time ago. She has COPD and will for the rest of her days. I thank God she quit before emphysema or lung cancer. But my brother wasn't so lucky. Heart disease got him at 36 and he was a heavy smoker since early in adolescence.

I don't know about Evan, but alfakat is a regular on facebook under his real name. btw, along with the conspiracy theory, paranoia stuff, don't forget DWA -- Dealing w/adversary... that definitely fostered paranoia...

Perhaps you're thinking of Michael Rood. Seventh Way Corps... quite the Rabbi these days.

My take on the clip is different than whoever posted (and titled) the clip. He was mocking that religion did not save the people and/or their homes or communities. He closed indicating it was sad the event had happened to the people. Now, as to use of the expression, what might be the talker's connection to events wherein he had heard the phrase used? Are we to assume no one prior to Loy C Martindale ever used the phrase, the terminology, the expression? Where might Loy have heard it? Whose path did Loy cross or whose did Mike Malloy. Or could there have been degrees of separation (or of Kevin Bacon)? Intriguing reflections nevertheless. :)

Well... I have it on good authority that it's not limited to married people...

Personal and emotional boundaries ARE common sense -- for those who have enough emotional and social maturity to recognize and consider (be considerate of) the needs of anyone other than him or her self.

March Forth! The ONLY day of the year which is also a command! :)

What you did by starting this thread, Sky... is to point out specific cases of where megalomaniacs have used "equality" as a ploy to centralize authority and then misuse that authority. You used lessons of history in political situations to define the early development process of the religious subculture (cult) with which we are familiar. My question to you had been intended to get you to think about whether the problem was the actual issue of equality or something other than that. The politics forum was put to sleep at greasespot last year. It is not my intent to revive it. Nevertheless, you answered the question and have your viewpoint. It is not my intent to engage you in discussion on that viewpoint. Rather, I recommend you consider whether or not the actual problem you identified has as its underlying issue whether the problem is humanity's desire for an egalitarian society or whether the problem is the megalomaniac who exploits that aspect of humanity to establish a culture/society that serves himself and his elite (oligarchy). The instances you cited for comparison purposes are not nearly the only times when equality and the need/desire for it have played a defining role in the establishment of a new nation. You did NOT cite American (revolutionary and pre-revolutionary) history. We hold THESE truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are... etc. The history of our country since that time has been a vivid drama revolving around tensions between the haves and the have nots. The actual bottom line is that citing the two examples as you did can shed light on Wierwille and twi. But those two examples are woefully inadequate in proving that there is anything inherently wrong or evil with the concept of egalitarianism.

Depression sucks, big time. Compassion goes a long way. Just an understanding ear, a handshake or a(n unselfish) hug. I know, I've been there. Stress also contributes dramatically to depression. A narcissistic cult is unlikely to provide, as so many have said in their own words (telling their own story) to provide the support and does indeed compound the stress. And Excie, no need to apologize to me for anything you've said here. :)

So, Sky, are you saying equality is not a worthy ideal?

Why was he turned away from twi hq?

The information on audio and video tapes is coded by way of magnetic processes. A large magnet can destroy the message on the tapes.

Holy crap!

Subtlety indeed. VERY insightful thread. THIS is the essence of twi being a cult. And yet, how long did it take any of us to figure it out... at least enough to decide it was not what we were going to do with the rest of our lives. For me, it took 12 years. And it's been 25 or so years SINCE. Yet, it remains a major aspect of life between my ears... Young adults are so vulnerable...

Thankfully, the naivete eventually faded for many of us.

What'd did he do with Emogene?

In the comfort of your own home... well, at least not having to go out in the snow and ice... I bought one of these, got it set up on Sunday, using it every day so far. Clearly getting a workout. 30 minutes today and heart rate and respiration in good exercise range for extended aerobic workout. VERY comfortable to ride. Easy to assemble (with two people). Gold's Gym Power 390 recumbent exercise bike.

This might also be picky, but the balance sheet referred to is -- on file with the state of Arizona's Corporation Commission -- not "from the state of Arizona. To my understanding, it was not an audited statement, just something that a couple of the corporate officers signed, possibly under (threat of) penalty of perjury. Nobody checks those, for the most part.

I'm not remembering Obama having claimed any call from God to be president. My comment was intended to show a couple of people who have laid claim to said calling when it appears they are just a good bit full of themselves.

Yeah, and God called W to be president... and now he's calling Michelle O'Bachman and Rick Santorum to be president.