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duality As hinted at by the word "dual" within it, duality refers to having two parts, often with opposite meanings, like the duality of good and evil. If there are two sides to a coin, metaphorically speaking, there's a duality. Peace and war, love and hate, up and down, and black and white are dualities. Another term for a duality is a dichotomy. Duality has technical meanings in geometry and physics. In geometry, duality refers to how points and planes have interchangeable roles in projective geometry. In physics, duality is the property of matter and electromagnetic radiation to be understood best through wave theory or particle theory. ------ This is truth. As always Skyrider, you make very good points. I would venture to say that most of us here at GSC hold that there IS a dichotomy between good and evil. What did Jesus have to say about this particular duality (the one that Skyrider noted in starting this thread)? Forsaking family... It occurs to me that it raises very intriguing issues especially given that most of us -- even those of us who are now 60+ years old -- were lured into this particular cult when we were of an age that typically sees individuals first establishing their adult lives apart from their parents. Even a cursory search shows troubling passages in the Gospels. One website attempts to deal with the issue by exploring what it means to forsake all. It is quite easy for some of us to look back on our lives lived over the last 40 years or so and recognize/acknowledge the truth of Skyrider's original post for this thread. It's easy for me to see how Wierwille (and those who figured after he kicked the bucket that they could capitalize on what he started) exploited Jesus' words to cement a dependency that would allow them to make their livings off of the labor of their followers. Forsaking earthly family fosters emotional dependence on the cult, does it not? After all, humans are social animals. We all crave a sense of belonging. Heck, some -- especially those who have for decades exploited mass media (televangelists) -- or even Mega-church pastors to become (filthy) rich. I wonder, how many millions of dollars does TWI have socked away for rainy days at present? No wonder Wierwille/TWI hammered on the duality of one's personal/family life.

In a thread he started today, Skyrider wrote: So no, jimjack, proselytizing for other cults is NOT the purpose of GSC.

Exposing the dark side of The Way International.

You didn't confuse me. I get why you'd be sad that we aren't biting on your bait hook. But I (and others) explained what the problems is/are. Bottom line is that you came here hoping to proselytize but nobody seems to be interested. You set forth your thing... if any one reads it and gets interested, I suppose they can get in touch with Blake. But that's really not the purpose of the Greasespot Cafe. We already escaped a spiritually abusive cult. You shouldn't be surprised that people here aren't interested in another one.

More of the exquisite irony.

You seem to have rationalized the reason some (including myself) didn't listen to more than the first two minutes. It's not about "backing down." If you read my response to the video, and if you did so with critical thinking skills, you'd see that I gave my reasons for disgust. It wasn't backing down, it was taking a stand.

Great article at the NYTimes. I believe the ground rules here and that moderators oversee the forums make a HUGE difference. Trancechat failed largely because it was not moderated and there was no way to know who was posting under what user names.

I couldn't get past the first two minutes either. In that two minutes, Blake declares that one must give up the right to choose in his or her life in order to make Jesus lord. If a person must delegate the right to choose for him or herself, that means one of two things. Either (or both) that person claiming Jesus as lord over her/his life must be subject to Blake (or whoever else is the "MOGFODAT") or must open themselves up to possession. My understanding of scripture strongly contradicts either of those as being "of God." As far as Dominionism (Christian Nationalism), Michelle Goldberg wrote an excellent primer, Kingdom Coming. The concept is about individuals submitting to a hardcore interpretation of the Lordship of Jesus and the Bible and the natural extension of that interpretation beyond the individual and beyond the church.

The Blake video reeks of Dominionism. Not only no but HELL NO.

Drat! Video blocked by HBO...

It would be so nice if you would go to youtube, choose one get the URL by clicking the share link and paste the link into a comment on this thread. Thank you in advance.

But you're still not qualifying what you're suggesting with anything tangible. Choose a video you believe well represents your point and post it here. That would take care of the problem. You choose.

You still haven't really defined what you are challenging anyone to look into. Besides, how can we know anything at all?

As if knowing you enough to distinguish you from Adam carries any significance? You haven't earned the honor of anyone taking a half hour out of their lives to do your research for you. If you want to legitimately argue that this White guy represents the true God, you've got a LOT of 'splainin yet to do there Lucy.

LOL... you want people to check this fellow out because you believe there's something special about him... but you expect everyone to just take your word for it? That's not how selling your point works.

jim jack, the best suggestion to you is simply to provide a link to one that you believe supports your argument/claim.

Please tell us how you would know "what he represents to God."

The latest on Barnard. "Convicted cult leader Victor Barnard was violently assaulted Sunday night at the state prison in Rush City, Fox 9 has learned. Barnard was taken by ambulance to an undisclosed hospital where he remains in the intensive care unit. His injuries, while serious, are not considered life-threatening..."

TRUTH shall set you free! Great post Twinky.

What do YOU think?

Wicked irony! I love it.

Couldn't find the video on youtube until just now.

To quote Meryl Streep (quoting Carrie Fisher) as she finished her Golden Globe acceptance speech this evening, "Take your broken heart and make it into art." Because, of course, art moves hearts.

No... YOU are the man, Skyrider!

Here ya go! btw, h/t to Lanikaigal.