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Please tell us how you would know "what he represents to God."

The latest on Barnard. "Convicted cult leader Victor Barnard was violently assaulted Sunday night at the state prison in Rush City, Fox 9 has learned. Barnard was taken by ambulance to an undisclosed hospital where he remains in the intensive care unit. His injuries, while serious, are not considered life-threatening..."

TRUTH shall set you free! Great post Twinky.

What do YOU think?

Wicked irony! I love it.

Couldn't find the video on youtube until just now.

To quote Meryl Streep (quoting Carrie Fisher) as she finished her Golden Globe acceptance speech this evening, "Take your broken heart and make it into art." Because, of course, art moves hearts.

No... YOU are the man, Skyrider!

Here ya go! btw, h/t to Lanikaigal.

The question isn't whether anyone is interested in reading it but rather what the personal toll for you would be to set it in writing and publish it here. We can live without it if it will be problematic for you to relive it.

I wouldn't worry about the title of the thread. It's a song title. Nothing more. Fictional literature (including songs) is about communicating concepts in ways people can relate to. I reject twi making everything about an (the) adversary. And as far as I remember, you aren't the first or only person to cite specific concerns about the Lallys.

Note, all you have to do -- instead of using the insert link button in the text editor (bar at the top there of) -- is to paste the youtube link into the text of your message. Thanks for sharing your story and Johnny Cash's song.

My thoughts almost exactly. Of course, hindsight is 20/20... my guess is that after decompressing from that final confrontation (and allowing twi to "repossess" your furniture on their schedule) you might have thought a time or two (or a few more) about telling them to f**k off, that they could have their stuff when you got ready to let them come and get it. Just a a thought.

Undertow is selling now on Amazon. For you folks who have read it, might I suggest (or request) you post a review to Amazon (even though you may not have purchased your copy from them)? I posted mine. Thanks.

You can watch (rent) the movie on Amazon. A ten minute preview is available for no charge. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C5928CW/ref=pd_cbs_318_1

Sounds like maybe you don't necessarily really disagree. It's obviously not an either/or. The home church model is about promoting emotional intimacy, isn't it? As with most other aspects of twi, there wasn't much genuine training or leadership on how to keep things above board, establish appropriate emotional/social boundaries or keep people from preying on vulnerable members.

March 4th......(yeah, march forth) (Walter Cummins Day... lol, I know it's corny)

Could this be the first record posted to gsc of someone's ordeal with deprogramming? Hope you're keeping your peace as much as possible as you recall and set it out in type. Again, Skyrider, thanks for sharing your story.

Right. Not a fundamentalist cult. But the social and emotional dynamics are still very similar.

Hindsight usually is 20/20.

Poignant and profound. Wierwille had figured out (what his god really taught him?) how to manufacture consent at least by the early 1970s. I've watched the Bourne movies several times each (well, the ones in which Matt Damon played the role of Jason Bourne). I'll never see them the same way now. Skyrider, thank you for sharing this insight.