Rocky

All of what material? I thought you said in another thread that you only had a pdf of The Bible Tells Me So. Why do you sound like a TWI troll?

How do you know that? How long have you been reading GSC forums?

Sounds like you're answering your own question... which is a good thing to do, since you're the one who needs to take responsibility for what you tell anyone else. Can you live with yourself if you suggest Wierwille's writings/teachings to anyone else?

and sleep deprivation...

It appears, Skyrider, that the moderators (at least one of them) honored your request to delete the weirdly formatted comment that was pretty much unreadable. I'm hoping your subsequent comments included all of what you tried to say in the one with the formatting problem.

Given that 24 of the 26 tweets sent by that account ( @LCMARTINDALE ) are dated April Fool's Day 2011 (nearly six years ago) and the other two are from May 2011, I'd surmise (like shortfuse) that it's not the real LCM.

Yes, you've been warned. And since you've come to the Greasespot Cafe, there is hope that you've encountered a significant emotional event that motivates you to re-evaluate your perspective and understanding of TWiC (The Way International Cult).

Sounds like you may not grasp basic communication concepts. You haven't objectively demonstrated that you didn't make a mistake when you wrote what you wrote. Until you get an acknowledgement from your intended audience that he/she/they understood the message as you intended to send it, you have no way to know if you made such a mistake or not.

I can relate.

It seems you are stating that Waysider misunderstood the message you intended to convey. Isn't it your job then, rather than accusing Waysider of "spin" to clarify for him (us) what you really meant? We've been through the mechanics of misunderstandings regarding your posts before... one might hope you get the point sooner or later.

duality As hinted at by the word "dual" within it, duality refers to having two parts, often with opposite meanings, like the duality of good and evil. If there are two sides to a coin, metaphorically speaking, there's a duality. Peace and war, love and hate, up and down, and black and white are dualities. Another term for a duality is a dichotomy. Duality has technical meanings in geometry and physics. In geometry, duality refers to how points and planes have interchangeable roles in projective geometry. In physics, duality is the property of matter and electromagnetic radiation to be understood best through wave theory or particle theory. ------ This is truth. As always Skyrider, you make very good points. I would venture to say that most of us here at GSC hold that there IS a dichotomy between good and evil. What did Jesus have to say about this particular duality (the one that Skyrider noted in starting this thread)? Forsaking family... It occurs to me that it raises very intriguing issues especially given that most of us -- even those of us who are now 60+ years old -- were lured into this particular cult when we were of an age that typically sees individuals first establishing their adult lives apart from their parents. Even a cursory search shows troubling passages in the Gospels. One website attempts to deal with the issue by exploring what it means to forsake all. It is quite easy for some of us to look back on our lives lived over the last 40 years or so and recognize/acknowledge the truth of Skyrider's original post for this thread. It's easy for me to see how Wierwille (and those who figured after he kicked the bucket that they could capitalize on what he started) exploited Jesus' words to cement a dependency that would allow them to make their livings off of the labor of their followers. Forsaking earthly family fosters emotional dependence on the cult, does it not? After all, humans are social animals. We all crave a sense of belonging. Heck, some -- especially those who have for decades exploited mass media (televangelists) -- or even Mega-church pastors to become (filthy) rich. I wonder, how many millions of dollars does TWI have socked away for rainy days at present? No wonder Wierwille/TWI hammered on the duality of one's personal/family life.

In a thread he started today, Skyrider wrote: So no, jimjack, proselytizing for other cults is NOT the purpose of GSC.

Exposing the dark side of The Way International.

You didn't confuse me. I get why you'd be sad that we aren't biting on your bait hook. But I (and others) explained what the problems is/are. Bottom line is that you came here hoping to proselytize but nobody seems to be interested. You set forth your thing... if any one reads it and gets interested, I suppose they can get in touch with Blake. But that's really not the purpose of the Greasespot Cafe. We already escaped a spiritually abusive cult. You shouldn't be surprised that people here aren't interested in another one.

More of the exquisite irony.

You seem to have rationalized the reason some (including myself) didn't listen to more than the first two minutes. It's not about "backing down." If you read my response to the video, and if you did so with critical thinking skills, you'd see that I gave my reasons for disgust. It wasn't backing down, it was taking a stand.

Great article at the NYTimes. I believe the ground rules here and that moderators oversee the forums make a HUGE difference. Trancechat failed largely because it was not moderated and there was no way to know who was posting under what user names.

I couldn't get past the first two minutes either. In that two minutes, Blake declares that one must give up the right to choose in his or her life in order to make Jesus lord. If a person must delegate the right to choose for him or herself, that means one of two things. Either (or both) that person claiming Jesus as lord over her/his life must be subject to Blake (or whoever else is the "MOGFODAT") or must open themselves up to possession. My understanding of scripture strongly contradicts either of those as being "of God." As far as Dominionism (Christian Nationalism), Michelle Goldberg wrote an excellent primer, Kingdom Coming. The concept is about individuals submitting to a hardcore interpretation of the Lordship of Jesus and the Bible and the natural extension of that interpretation beyond the individual and beyond the church.

The Blake video reeks of Dominionism. Not only no but HELL NO.

Drat! Video blocked by HBO...

It would be so nice if you would go to youtube, choose one get the URL by clicking the share link and paste the link into a comment on this thread. Thank you in advance.

But you're still not qualifying what you're suggesting with anything tangible. Choose a video you believe well represents your point and post it here. That would take care of the problem. You choose.

You still haven't really defined what you are challenging anyone to look into. Besides, how can we know anything at all?

As if knowing you enough to distinguish you from Adam carries any significance? You haven't earned the honor of anyone taking a half hour out of their lives to do your research for you. If you want to legitimately argue that this White guy represents the true God, you've got a LOT of 'splainin yet to do there Lucy.