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Good luck with that.

"All the purges?" Those came AFTER the first exodus in 1986. I don't get your tone. Anyway, asking for conjecture at this point rather than checking GSC history... and jumping down my throat for directing you to where you can find the answers you seek seems weird.

Vodaphone was only cited as an example. China's not necessarily a genuine parallel. And Google's access to Chinese consumer markets isn't at all a parallel to the issues inherent with net neutrality in the US. The conclusion, and the point of the story, is spelled out in the last paragraph. "The FCC staff’s findings indicated that net neutrality needed tighter, not looser, regulation. Under Pai’s proposals, which will be voted on and probably approved by the majority-Republican FCC on Dec. 14, the potential for narrowing of consumer options by ISPs will only grow. You’ll be paying more for your broadband, and your choices will be left up to your ISP. Is this the internet you’ve grown accustomed to? Not in the least."

Btw, I'm not now and have not been associated with JAL's ministry since he left TWI. As far as I can recall, one time I attended a meeting when he came to Phoenix. I was seriously not impressed in a positive way then and still am not. However, he is civil with people on FB.

Well then... aren't you the cheerful one today. Are you not familiar with the letter in 1986 signed by JAL, RD, Tom R and Sue P? That was 31 years ago now. Sounds like you don't really know JAL's side of it. Btw, your opening post for this thread was simple and succinct, "So, does anybody know the reason JAL left the vay?" What you didn't say or even allude to was anything suggesting you wouldn't believe his answer if you asked him. He didn't get purged, he left in the first mass exodus. Other than the already recorded history (rather than jumping down my throat, you're free and welcome to search the old threads in the About the Way forum), you actually could ask him yourself.

Have you considered asking him yourself? He's on Facebook and willingly connects for ex-way folks.

A very important topic that should matter to all of us.

Most certainly yes.

Apparently, the $1.99 price is good for the e-version of Ehrman's book throught the end of November.

Yeah, missed just a little bit. Much of it is chronicled in the About the Way forum. Let us know if you need anything... soon, someone will come along and offer you a cup of coffee and a tasty dessert. Welcome Jeff.

Amazon's Kindle store is charging only $1.99 today for Ehrman's book on How Jesus Became God.

Apparently Victor Bernard had his 30-year sentence reduced to 24 years. http://www.fox9.com/news/victor-barnard-wins-appeal-details KMSP) - Minnesota cult leader Victor Barnard has won an appeal of his criminal conviction, throwing out the upward departure of his 30-year prison. Barnard's sentence will be reduced to 24 years. The court ruled "the case law on this issue is clear: when a district court fails to provide reasons for a sentencing departure on the record at the time of sentencing, no departure will be allowed. Although we have no doubt that permissible departure grounds exist in this case, because the district court did not provide any departure grounds on the record at the time of sentencing, case law compels us to remand for imposition of the presumptive sentence. We are obligated to follow the law." Sources tell Fox 9 Barnard has been moved to a prison outside of Minnesota, for his safety. In January an inmate of the Rush City, Minnesota, prison said he “was doing God’s work” when he allegedly assaulted Barnard in a cell. On Oct. 11, 2016, Barnard unexpectedly pleaded guilty to sexually molesting two of his teenage followers. As part of a plea bargain, Barnard had agreed to the 30 year prison sentence. It was a Fox 9 Investigation three years ago that revealed Barnard sexually abused two of his followers who were members of the “Maidens,” a group of 10 first born daughters in the group who were to serve Victor Barnard. The story led to a re-opening of the investigation against Barnard, a 59-count indictment against him, an international manhunt, and his eventual extradition back to Minnesota. In January, Barnard and 15 followers were also served with a lawsuit from one of his victims, Lindsay Tornambe. The lawsuit claims the leadership of the River Road Fellowship failed to protect her from “the perversions of Victor Barnard.”

That's correct, as mentioned in the NYTimes link HAPe4me posted above.

As apparently was the case with Linda Kasabian, who testified against Manson.

Generally speaking, imposing the death penalty is far more expensive. The requirements for the carrying out thereof are extensive and expensive.

It's about time!

How do you propose to get them to do so?

It doesn't look like a thread has been started yet. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/forum/85-questioning-faith/

That would be "projecting." Which it appears you do quite unconsciously and perhaps frequently in your posts. Btw, Stinky (...er, Twinky... sorry, Twinky, I got quite a chuckle out of Grace's faux pas) may have hit the nail on the head. Aspergers may be the kindest way to assess the fact that so many things we write seem to just go right over rrobs' head. We aren't mental health professionals and certainly are not qualified to diagnose anyone. But for background to perhaps understand why Twinky suggested Asperger's as a possibility, this article might shed some light.

Have you not even read what you posted yesterday? If you don't care whether I believe you, why do you refuse to simply set forth the answers to the questions I posed? Your initial response to my invitation for you to spell it out in your own words strongly suggested you do care.

Btw, aren't you prejudging? I invited you to prevent readers of this thread from doing that to you. If you make your case, in your own words, answering those questions, what would there be to be afraid of? Doesn't love cast out fear? Where did you come up with that I don't believe you when you said you didn't mean to hurt anyone? I never said any such thing. Perhaps the thread title, "who do you love?" might have been more poignant changing it to, "how does one love?"

Bullies? Give me a break. Would you rather I just pronounce a judgment that you can simply deny? Why would you care if I believed you or not? At least you could put it out there in your own words and let it speak for itself.

To love... could you please (rrobs) expound on what you believe that entails, what it means? Does empathy and compassion have any place in the definition from your perspective? If so, please expound.

The second reply to your original post in this thread. Later, following up to a response made by GVC, Twinky said,

The key expression is "tell YOURSELF" not "opportunity." But that's okay... regular readers here are probably by now inured to how you respond to insights presented.